DISQUS

Film School Rejects: WTF: Twilight Is Not a Vampire Movie?!

  • Reg · 12 months ago
    "OMG like this isn't a vampire movie". Ok Kayla and Brianna we know that its a love story but come on it's a vampire movie!! If you are trying to compare this to your life I think you need to get a life. As much I wanna see this movie I'm not ga-ga over it.
  • Nish · 12 months ago
    I agree. Metaphor or no metaphor , if there are vampires in the movies, give them some balls. The poor guys haven't quite recovered since Anne Rice made turned them into gay goths. Also Kayla, spelling out a word doesn't explain what it means. The Twilight Watch book covers the subject of vampires quite well I thought.
  • Davebaxter1989 · 12 months ago
    Well according a to a rather amusing graffiti strewn poster that guy beside the vampire guy in your main picture is a . . .


    SPOILER (Apparently)


    Werewolf.

    So maybe it's just a random monster style book. Or it's a m-e-t-a-p-h-o-r ;)
  • Reg · 12 months ago
    LOL!! Thanks Dave.
  • damonstration · 12 months ago
    i was the 98-pound weakling on the schoolyard...

    man, teenagers are annoying. we all know the vampires are metaphors. vampires have been romanticized since their creation. and can kayla please tell me what the metaphor behind (spoiler) bella's vampire baby ripping her uterus open is? or is it just something vampire-y to add to a vampire story?
  • David G · 12 months ago
    I agree that Twilight wasnt a very good movie, but if you're gonna use a bada** vampire example dont go with Anne Rice's. Her vampires were just as metrosexual as Twilight 's were. Actually hers were even gayer.
  • ihbarba · 12 months ago
    I can't stand teenagers anymore... blame it on MTV and all those stupid reality shows and CW dramas that fill their heads with a "wannabe" attitude. I can even hear Kayla and Brianna's annoying high pitch voice speaking their "OMG" and "like" fillers.
  • Ronin · 12 months ago
    OMG

    sorry i just wanted to contribute to the omg's. Stupid emo teenage girls. Most monster movies or characters such as hulk in comics are metaphors for something else.
  • Cole_Abaius · 12 months ago
    As usual, you miss the most obvious argument Kevin - that your review was a metaphor. Also for syphilis.

    Sidenote: spellcheck knows the word 'syphilis.' I always knew spellcheck was a slut.
  • lalisa · 12 months ago
    Whenever I need a dose of testosterone, I visit FSR. First, you all make me laugh out loud because your really don't pull any punches. Second, I love reading comments from people who actually should read more books. Maybe, if they'd learn a bit more punctuation and spelling, people might actually take them seriously. Well, not anyone at FSR, but certainly potential employers. . .
  • Davebaxter1989 · 12 months ago
    Sorry Lalisa I not only have a job but am also a student who happens to have just polished off all three volumes of Das Kapital which are at least comparable to the weighty tomes by Stephanie Meyer surely? And coming on a Twilight board and complaining about punctuation? LIEK OMG THR B WAE 2 MENY PPL LETTEN U DWN THR!
  • Jenny Talls · 12 months ago
    The Twili-tards will utilize every lesson taught in freshman English class to defend their precious wish-fulfillment abomination. I think this whole "vampires are metaphors for blah blah blah" is bullshit, the book doesn't explore any themes or contain any literary merit, so the idea of Stephanie writing anything remotely "deep" is preposterous. As far as I'm concerned, the only metaphors in her work are Thesaurus-induced purple prose to describe Edward's perfection is some back-handed manner.
  • Arou101 · 12 months ago
    If it's a metaphor then I don't get it. It's not like the rest of the world knows about vampires, so society doesn't view it as wrong--that rules out any metaphor linking it to a modern day Romeo & Juliet or the hardships about interracial dating. Where's the metaphor?

    What's sad is that this TRIES to be a vampire movie, but fails miserably. For one, there's no repercussion to being a vampire. You're thirsty for blood, but there's a way around it--and you have stripper glitter on your skin when you go out in the sun. So what? You don't age, you can fly around like you have a harness strapped on to you, you're strong, and you are faster than everyone else. Where's the torment, the agony, and the pain that comes along with being a vampire? It's not there.

    In fact, you could take all the vampires out of this movie, replace them with humans, and you have a chick flick with an action sequence at the end. It's been done before. I encourage everyone to go to southparkstudios.com and watch their parody of Twilight, it really shows that the movie is about as superficial as its fans. And before you OMG and WTF me, I dare you to take the preteen hands off, put on some big girl hands (you know, the ones that got you through remedial college English), and type a response that proves me wrong. Something tells me that you won't be able to do it.
  • Idk who i am · 12 months ago
    WATEVER!!!
  • Arou101 · 12 months ago
    That was either a brilliant joke, or exactly the stereotype I was talking about.
  • Adriano Ariganello · 12 months ago
    People just have a hard time separating their fangirl love for the book to the poorly executed flick. Just because it exists doesn't automatically make it good.

    But Kevin, "It's a Wonderful Life" is as much a Christmas Movie as "Die Hard". (And before someone flames me for it, the only thing that makes it a Christmas Movie is that it takes place at Christmas, just like Die Hard or Just Friends.)

    Regardless, keep up the straight-talk and Happy Thanksgiving!
  • Sarah · 12 months ago
    Kevin Carr, you rock my world. I usually don't write on this stuff, but I have to give you some recognition for your article. Thank you.
  • LOLITA · 12 months ago
    I saw the film tonight. I had read the book. I wouldn't consider myself a big fan but I'm always inerested in any novel hat gets such attention, I want to know iftheres something to it. It was the easiest read, it flew by really quickly, my major problem with it was I'm not into the lovey-dovey type stuff so I had do my best to stand it for oh say 200 pages. While reading I could help but wonder how on earth they were going to pull it off onscreen bcause theres only so much one can take conserning "I love you" back and forth before it gets repetative and silly. My theatre was an interesting crowd I noticed that "die hard" fans were laughing their asses off at the scenes which were suppose to be intense. Normally this would piss me off soo much but my God, even I was doing it, it was like it couldn't be helped. The first half of the film was pretty damn bad but I did enjoy the last 40 mins. The "VAMPIRE" segment if you like.
  • lolita · 12 months ago
    PART 2 (my comment apparently is 3 comments too long. ugh.
    The book just didn't translate so well to screen. I don't know who to blame for that. the actors, screenwrier, director... I understand fans who say its a love story first but if they can't even get that to translate onscreen without the audience bursting out laughing then you got a problem. I found I was watching all these (laughable) intense scenes, ones which were suppose to show their love I suppose, one to show them emoting agnst and such, these moments were EVERYWHERE, yet never once did I actually FEEL the intensity that was suppose to be between the characters.
    At least in the novel thei passion for one another translates. I swear Edward looked like he couldn't stand Bella most of the time. (I know thi i were the die hard fan says I'm wrong, that he's suffering becaus he loves her and blah blah... but theres got to be a balance). I won't get into my issues with some of the casting but lets just say being related or working with directors in the past shouldn't automatically allow you to get a role you so obviously don't fit.
  • LOLITA · 12 months ago
    LAST PART I SWEAR!!!

    I'm more interested now in seeing how the 2nd film plays out. Maybe they can take the constructive critism from people who do read the books but like me felt they were off and can do something about it.
    Instead of seeing a wonderful love story, or a great vampire tale I feel as though I watched an over the top, hokey, melo-dramatic 2 hour soap opera that begun to take interest only in the 3rd act. It seemed as though the whole theatre agreed. Also I love the "flying scenes" They were beautifully visual.
    Did anyone else experience that? Audiences of fans who couldn't stop lauhing no matter how hard they tried to hold back?
    Thanks guys for giving m esomewhere to vent about this. I don't know whether to be angry and demand my money back or to go see it again just to study it and the audience closer!
  • Mike · 12 months ago
    I am not going to claim this book is greatly written or the movie is the best thing since Tab. However, I do believe it has its merits, which lie mainly in Meyer's characters and not the story. The relationship between Bella and Edward is a metaphor for how a single person can feel when he/she seems to be in love. These characters represent love's extremes: feeling helpless to another person's grip, but also wanting to fully consume that very person who has a grip on you. One needs to find a balance in order for the relationship to keep going, for the love to stay intact. In this way, they not only complete each other in their minds and in the readers, but personify the instincts of love. I'm sorry if you've never experienced this before.

    As for Twilight trying to be a vampire movie and saying it fails miserably... your reasoning appears to lack any actual thought beyond "it would be cool." If you've ever contemplated Life before - yours, others, what it is - I doubt you would seriously think being a vampire comes without agony. Unless you have no morality, don't care much for your loved ones, or thirst for power above all else. Wow, I think I just described a corporation...

    I am not a hardcore fan of the series, but people need to realize that teenage girls are not the only ones who support it. Yes, they are the majority, but there are also those of us who are well-educated and cultured, able to have a debate without resorting to pettiness or getting defensive.
  • Jeff · 12 months ago
    Havent seen twilight but the watch series is great as books, the movies don't translate as well from Russian. I'm hoping for an American Re-make with good special effects and more true to the book.
  • Cody · 12 months ago
    hey, let's be glad they didn't put as many lame ass vampire effects in this as they could have or it would just be retarded beyond belief. Look at The Covenant and how stupid that was because of the super power effects which were a lot like those in Twilight.
  • Dark and Light · 11 months ago
    Part one
    Ok people vampires are Not fairies, if I wanted to see a vampire sparkle, I do a line of crack, smoke a huge joint, and shoot up on heroine. Since I don't all I got to say is that it was, The worst, biggest pile of crap vampire movie, EVER!!!, I am a teenager, and all I see is a 107 year old vampire trying to get laid with a teenage girl, who has a fettish for dead glowing guys.
  • Dark and Light · 11 months ago
    Part two (dumbAss)
    The screen writer sucked, the director is horrible, and the special effects, were really, really, REALLY BAD. I edited my home made films on photoshop and they look better. If Dracula could go to Edward house, he'd murder all of them and eat their hearts.He'll skin him and eat him like a sparkly turkey dinner. If Dracula wanted he could put it in a dress, put some parsley on it (to make it look nice) and sell it to some teenage slappy cock for christmas.He would wrap Edward's skin around a basket ball, and use it for a freakin disco ball, and party 70's style with bonnie and clyde burning in hell. "this is the skin of a killer..." says Edward, " It shines like a gay pony" says I. If I was there (and you can bet the fck I will be) I'd kill the spanish bastard and send him to Bella's house with tinsil wrapping and a bow.


    P.S(Post Script for you retards out there): I accept your judgement on the movie and accept your all having your period. And to all the guys out there, Keep your pimp hand strong.
  • Erina · 11 months ago
    YOU JACK ASS!! Edward and the other Cullens are Vampires and they're just as strong, if not stronger, than the Vampires in the Anne Rice novels. And by the way, the movie is quite different from the book and if you actually paid attention you would under stand the true meaning of Edward and Bella's relationship, the movie and book is not based on the fact that "ooooooh there are vamires in Forks Washington!" no it's based on the struggle that Edward and his family go through to protect Bella and to attempt not to harm her in the many ways they could, Edward love her more than his own "life" and will do anything he can to protect her. that is the reason and the plot behind the story so read the books and get a life! Oh and by the way, the book and movie are ment for teenagers not some grumpy old man who has nothing to do but rag on a teen movie!!!
  • Erina · 11 months ago
    i can admit that the book didnt totally translate on screen and they did mess up alot of parts on film and i personally blame the screen writer and the director for bad translation. If you don't pay attention to the differences between the book and the movie the movie actually is quite good so you really do need to stop hating..... like i said before this movie was not ment for grumpy old men who like to bash teen movies
  • michie-chan777 · 11 months ago
    well it deffinatly could have been better =P it was a bit of a disappointment
    im reading the book now and its alright i suppose, though i HAVE read better...
    both the book and movie are overly romanticizing vampires all in all...
    i mean, theres a line of romanticizing something and just going nuts!!
    =/ and i believe that is what they did.. heheheh
    ah well
  • Arou101 · 11 months ago
    No. This is a discussion about the movie, not Meyer's novel. While the book may have been something, the movie was atrocious. The acting never showed any extremes of love, and I'm sorry if your version of love is relentless stalking and fumbling conversation (watch out ladies.) First paragraph, completely void.

    Second paragraph; you went on to prove my point. Aside from craving blood, there are no downsides to being a vampire. They're attractive, all of them have superpowers, and some of them even have an extra ability. What morality issues do they face? Edward pushes some forced "I am a killer" sentiment, but then reveals he's never fed on a human... huh? If he had fed on humans and now regrets the act, well, that would be something to add to this one-layer script. I don't blame the story, because the idea of a great movie is there, but I do blame the shoddy directing, the shallow acting of the one-note lead actress, and the god awful special effects.

    You're defending the book, not the movie. I'm bashing the movie, not the book. Understand? And despite your "well-educated" and "cultured" ways, there were plenty of defensive puns and petty jabs strewn throughout your post. I'm not saying that you're a douche, I'm just saying your reply lingers of a rose-scented feminine hygiene product.
  • Tori · 11 months ago
    Wait, how is it a "lousy" vampire movie? I mean, I've just about seen them all.

    I thought it was an amazing book, and a pretty decent movie. Maybe not as good as Underworld, Interview with the Vampire, or I am Legend, but it still is a very good movie.

    The point of the movie was to entertain, and it did exactly that.
  • Melanie · 11 months ago
    I personally LOVED the movie.I am not a teen or an old lady.I started reading the book out of curiosity,to see what the fuss was about.I read the book in two days and was amazed.It is def unique from ANY vampire tale/movie out there.I watched the movie a few days later.I can see what pple are saying about quality of the movie,switching things around,special effects.If it were a 4 hr movie,alot more could be explained for those who havent read the book.The movie was good,could of been better,but we have no control over the directors and their money budget for the film.From what I've gathered,Robert Pattinson did'nt even think the movie was going to be big at all.Now that the production Co.,and everyone else involved of the film have a WAY better idea of how POPULAR the story IS,now they can predict it will be worth making part 2 more extreme with special effects and going all out for it.
  • Renee · 10 months ago
    actully the vampires are NOT whiney.
    they are just vegetariens and the vamps arent meant to be the main thing in the film, its meant to focus on the luv between Bella and Edawrd !
  • Aerii · 10 months ago
    @Renee: That was sarcasm. Right? Right?! Vampires are not vegetarians, you moron! You and S.M. (or rather, S&M, named for the author-reader relationship between you and Her) need to stay on THAT side of the internet. Come back when you make some sense.

    I swear to God, how does anyone eat this crap up?! It's not even a vampire story anymore! Hardly, I mean. They're pretty much vamps in name only. Vampires have fangs. Vampires hate the sun. I mean, they don't have to turn into bats, but they still have to drink human blood you know!

    As a teenage girl, I'm ashamed of my generation. It's so sad.
  • neeltje123 · 8 months ago
    ahahahaha ,
    you all make me laugh :)
    i have to comment on a few ppl b4 i give my opinion ,
    damonstration i agree with the whole baby ripping her uterus open thing, like come on there is no metaphor for that, if anyone can actually think of a metaphor for that i would really like to hear it lmao .
    Arou101 i seriously think i love you lmfao ,the whole stripper glitter thing made me laugh so hard i was like crying, like i never thought of that b4 but i totally agree,
    LOLITA, i agree with your whole edward couldnt stand bella
    Erina ok sorry but did you have to get that defencive like ppl have their own opinions, like yes i love the books and i like the movie, but that dont mean im gonna go all bitchy-teenage-girl on you. clam down and just say that you dont agree.
    and i just read the comment you made after the bitch one and see that is all that was needed, not the bitch.

    OH MY FUCK!! Dark and Light you are my fucking idol and if i were to meet you i would so bang you!!!!!!!!! that comment made my day:)

    totally agree with tori




    okay what i think is that like come on ppl like everyone has their own opinion like ya i like the book maybe eveen love the book but that doesnt mean imma tell you your an idiot and should like the book, and ya iknow the movie and book are totally non realistice but come on its a movie, and i would like to know when was there ever a movie that isnt retarded in someones eyes??
    yeah NEVER, and just bc i like or love this movie does not mean im a streio type girly teenage girl, yes iknow i say like alot but that means shit.
    and like seriously you cant really say a vampire has to drink human blood and blahblahblah, a vampire isnt real there isnt any real FACT on it other then there is blood drinking involved, so you can make it wat you wanna make it,
    im sorry you guys but its a movie , who really cares they're are like a million other movies.








    okay btw i dont usally post on this shit but im really bored its like 4 in the morning and i cant sleep and i somehow got to this page so i started reading. yes i am pathetic and like totally a loser or what ever you wanna say, for commenting , but you know what, at least i can admit to it and really dont care what anyone thinks about me:)
  • Sara · 8 months ago
    LOLITA, i agree with your whole edward couldnt stand bella but wat i think about it is that edward cant stand bella bc her blood obviously but bc he cant stand her it makes me feel more not like in love with her but its like the whole you like wat you cant have, hes not supose to like her bc hes not supose to do anythign but suck her blood or whatever but i think that bc he isnt suppose to like her it interestes him even more and then he either falls in love of just gets addived to being around her and being able to be so close and have the abbilitie to stop himself
    or something liek that.
  • Bella · 8 months ago
    Okay , all i have to really say is that everyone has their own opinion, and for me its that the book was awesome, and the movie was a good movie, but compared to the book it was just okay.
  • Christine · 7 months ago
    I have to say that I think it is more of a romance story. Certainly the vampires are an essential part, but that would be like pointing out constantly humans and their flaws in any "regular" realistic fiction novel. The goal was to create a different take on Romeo and Juliet, therefore the problem was not class differentiation or family fueds, but physical barriers and limits that must be adhered by. The theme was forbidden fruit, and vampirism was the mechanism by which the theme was reached.

    I'll admit I am a die-hard fan of the series, but also admit that I almost loathed the movie. Too inaccurate for my tastes. But I'd also like to say there are intelligent fans of the series out there too, so please don't generalize us teens on the basis of common forum-dwellers who just learned to type without chatspeak.
  • Peter Sebio · 6 months ago
    eh...i know it's a vampire movie even though i really dont want it to be. they disgrace everything a vampire is. from the original dracula to interview with a vampire, twilight isn't a vampire movie. vampire literature has always been a beautiful thing and twilight took a shit on it. the author of twilight even admit in an interview she knew NOTHING of what vampires are. There is nothing vampire about the vampires in twilight.
  • Peter Sebio · 6 months ago
    also, if you wanna call it a love story, go for it. it's a terrible love story. it's typical, unoriginal and stupid. a love that transcends all differences and obstacles..bravo....
  • Fed up · 5 months ago
    Stephenie Meyer is not smart enough to write a novel (if you can call this that) with metaphors in it. You can tell based on her writing style which is of the same caliber as such great works of art as "See Spot Run". Honestly Dr. Seuss is more eloquent. As far as the movie goes, it was an acting abomination that 15 year old girls went gaga over because they think Edward was the sexiest man alive, even though he looks like he has been rotting 6 feet under the ground for 10 years WITHOUT makeup. This pathetic excuse for entertainment has plagued this country and that is depressing. Half of the fans of this movie never read the book, and those that have: this and Gossip Girls are the only books they must have ever read.
  • mario1234343 · 2 months ago
    I totally agree with you man, stephanie meyer makes me really angry. She pretty much destroyed the myth of vampires. In an interview she said she hasn't seen any vampire movies or read any vampire books. Vampires are actually metaphors for human sin and sexual desires, that stupid woman turned it upside down and everything. You know it's not even a love story.
  • mario1234343 · 2 months ago
    I totally agree with you man! That stupid meyer destroyed the vampire myth and made her own shit. In a recent interview she stated that she has never watched a horror movie or read any other vampire novel in her life, she thinks they're stupid. That's not a good enough reason for her to destroy a long line of classics. Vampires are actually a metaphor for human sin and strong sexual desires, I could write a whole essay on them and describe how that dumb woman has created her own character rather.
  • chavkill · 2 months ago
    basicly what she did was turn vampires into things that sparkle in sunlight and are not monsters. Some of my friends are fans and its just i want my vampire movie to be about vampires not ^what i said up there
  • tylerdurden1681 · 2 months ago
    This is why we need the goth kids to rid the world of those vamp kids. Didn't South Park teach us this already? The funny thing is I walked by a Hot Topic a week ago and was amazed at how half their store was Twilight products. Cause we all need an Edward Backpack.
  • teen girl · 1 month ago
    THANK U someone who FINALLY agrees AND I'M A TEEN GIRL FOR LORDS SAKE!
  • CrioGenicZ · 6 days ago
    Twilight. Pfft! I don't think it deserved to be aligned with the real vampire movies. Fanboys and Fangirls are really annoying defending this film ugh.