DISQUS

brandon · 1 year ago

How can this possibly work? The Korean film was one of the darkest, most graphic and mind-blowing experiences I've ever had in cinema- I just can't see Will Smith starring in an R-rated film, cutting his own tounge out and having an incestuous affair unknown to him with his daughter. What we will probably get is a toned down, castrated film.

herculesisadore · 1 month ago

It will work because it's based on a popular manga, and it will adhere more strictly to the manga concepts unlike the Korean film, which added very vulgar elements. You can be sure it won't have a tongue being cut out, because that wasn't in the manga, but that's not toning down the movie, it's just not making it more grotesque than the story (of the manga) was ever originally intended to be. That's not castration. That's restoration. No?

Josh_Radde · 1 year ago

I wonder if they'll keep the whole Electra vibe...Those familiar with Freud know what Im talkin' about.

herculesisadore · 1 month ago

They're not keeping anything from the movie. They're not even necessarily looking at the movie. It was a manga first.

Rob_Hunter · 1 year ago

I'd enjoy the hardcore, but I agree with you that this incarnation could actually manage to be entertaining. Spielberg and Smith still have more hits than misses, so I'll give them a chance.

herculesisadore · 1 month ago

I am VERY MUCH looking forward to it!

chewbacca1010 · 1 month ago

See, I don't think they do. In his old age, Speilberg is getting sentimental, so we end up with interesting and rather gruesome adaptations of War of the Worlds, where *spoilers* the kid ends up surviving, even though the majority of humanity didn't. Stevie needs to stop with the sappy endings already.

Mathieu Lalonde · 1 year ago

Will Smith and Steven Speilberg... can you say "PG-13"?

Mike · 1 year ago

"PG-13"... I agree. It'll be hard to pull it off with how f-up the material is, but Speilberg and Smith will find a way --- I'm kinda looking forward to this, but i don't think it will do well.

Whaler · 1 year ago

called it....

Sean · 1 year ago

Good news. Now fanboys, stop your b*tching and crying.

Aleric · 1 year ago

Remember, this is Will Smith we are talking about. All the negative aspects of the manga character will be removed and he will be transformed into a character resembling more of what Will wants. After all he couldn't even be a bad super hero he had to try and make him loveable att he same time. ::::puke::::

Having Steven Speilberg associate with it means I for one will not go to see it. Why not bring in Lucas and throw in a few crystal skulls.

steeveedee · 1 year ago

I'm sick of American filmmakers trying to "adapt" material from other countries. Oldboy needs no reinvention or redirection, whether from source material or not. The Japanese version is great. I guess the American public is just too stupid to read subtitles and enjoy a true classic. I mean, we're talking about Spielberg here...has he run out of original ideas for God's sake? As for Will Smith, isn't anyone else as tired as me of his preening, self-centered acting? Gimme a break.

Cole_Abaius · 1 year ago

The Mangas are actually pretty different from the film. My biggest concern is that Smith will want to be lovable, but the mangas aren't actually as hardcore as Chan-wook Park's movie. There's a lot more conversation and random stuff. I'm skeptical, but at least I went from despair to skepticism.

Albee Damm · 1 year ago

I've read the entire 8 manga Oldboy series and BIG SPOILERS OF DEATH













It has NOTHING incestuous in it. The hero was jailed because his old schoolmate saw him cry during a school musical, if I remember well, the hero was some kind of tough guy and his enemy, a bullied student. He sorta resented him for it.

He does meet a younger girl and bangs her but it's NOT his daughter. He screws other women too.

Cole_Abaius · 1 year ago

Now dat's real!

Thank you, Will Smith

darkko · 1 year ago

this is seriously going to suck. first he destroys 'i am legend,' now 'oldboy.' so sad. and finally, his son will destroy 'the karate kid.'

Jason V · 1 year ago

I've only read the first volume of the Oldboy manga, but aside from the Japanese setting and characters, the story is mostly the same. Not that any of that matters when it's being Americanized (that's the first time I've used that word).

Mark · 1 year ago

The original Oldboy film was Korean, not Japanese, steeveedee.

Davebaxter1989 · 1 year ago

Well to be honest I don't really want it to be as 'hardcore' as the original. Why would we want that when we have it already. I think I could find enjoyment in a Spielberg/Smith film with as interesting a premise even if it's not a masterpiece.

HDu · 1 year ago

Is this going to be like Scorsese's The Departed that was supposedly not an adaptation of Infernal Affairs?

RobertFure · 1 year ago

"Old Boy" was good, mostly for how hardcore the ending was. Take that out and soften that blow and you're not left with anything all that special, plot/story wise. I sense a 110million box office for a movie that will either A)Be cool but have little to do with Old Boy or B) Be watered down and useless.

Chi Chi Fanglehorn · 1 year ago

Wow, you are a fucking idiot! Scorsese has never once said that it was not a remake of Internal Affairs, he has said that it was numerous times! How about you get your head out of your ass and try to research something before you spout off on something you have no clue about. Fucking idiot.

darkko · 1 year ago

jeezus, take a chill pill moron.

D Train · 1 year ago

I'm not sure what everyone is crying about. Since we already have Parks Oldboy, and its already a masterpiece , than what do we have to lose? I mean, not like Spielberg Is taking the original, digitally removing his fists and replacing them with flashlights... Right?

BrianCGibson · 1 year ago

I just want the ending to be the same, so when Will Smith opens the box he can yell "Aww Hell Naw!"

JCVD · 1 year ago

spoiler alert

Davebaxter1989 · 1 year ago

Come on Mike it's Spielberg and Smith there is no way ANY film made by them would not be hugely successful. It may not be successful within the internet community.

steeveedee · 1 year ago

Sorry, I know it was Korean. Be that as it may, and all your struggling aside, it's still a completely unnecessary endeavor and if you think differently, I struggle to take you seriously.

Davebaxter1989 · 1 year ago

I struggle to take you seriously when you don't even get Oldboy's country of origin correct.

Davebaxter1989 · 1 year ago

It may be unnecessary but it's happening and my point is that it may have some redeeming value that is entirely different from the original you hold dear. And my point was that you hold it so dear yet got that fact wrong. If however it was a typo then mistakes are mistakes but my thoughts on this are different does not mean shit.

Berurin · 12 months ago

The Story is not the same ;)
If you only read the first manga, you don't know.

adrian_neagu · 12 months ago

the chan-wook park's movie is far more fascinating than the manga book. it's more intense than the comic book. maybe i have that impresion because i'm from the one of those unknown east european country, and i do not recognize a good manga book when i see one. in the movie, evergreen is pure evil, he takes revenge upon oh dae-su, who doesn't stand a chance to fight back. evergreen is like a god in the film. in the book evergreen is like an old fart who tries to get some, but his tool doesn't works anymore, and plays pathetic games. the comic inspired the movie, and that's all. if chan-wook park followed the book exactly, i think that the result would have been another asian revenge saga, with nothing remarkable. anyhow, an americanized oldboy is a bad idea. especially when spielberg is in charge.

voiced · 11 months ago

This is no way good news, it's just not as bad as it could be. I'm not crying but this is going to SUCK monumentally. That is all.

Burnt · 11 months ago

Ahaha, that would actually make me piss myself....

aceadventure · 11 months ago

Sometimes i like to touch my pee pee

herculesisadore · 1 month ago

Sadly this is one of the more sensible comments here.

Janet · 11 months ago

If they use the same ending as the comic, I think people who watched the original oldboy will be disappointed. I think it can work, if they stick to their own style and give it a unique ending that works well but is not too sappy.

NakedOni · 10 months ago

How about making a NEW movie and writing a NEW script instead of using an already well established work as a crutch. It seems like nowadays, Hollywood movies are just watered-down rip-offs of previous works. Will Smith is a douch-bag.

anonymous615 · 10 months ago

i saw the original film and i absolutely love it... if i am to watch its credibility with my fellow Americans, who refuse to watch a subtitle movie out of pure laziness (yes they do exist), be washed away by the man who raped his once great films and the star of such things like: the fresh prince, hancock, i am legend, men in black... all works i hate with a fiery passion. i expect to be compensated for their guaranteed destruction of this film in the form of their public execution.

AnonymousPo · 10 months ago

Oldboy is a masterpiece.

Remade it is a bullshit. Is a sin.

Hollywood is really poor of ideas...

herculesisadore · 1 month ago

Read the article. It's not a remake.

JPJPJP · 2 months ago

There's no reason to beat around the bush. Steven Spielberg and Will Smith are attempting to remake Old Boy. This is an outrage.

herculesisadore · 1 month ago

You didn't read the article at all. Did you?

joss13 · 1 month ago

This is going to be horrible, I despair that when someone thinks of 'Oldboy' that this westernised film will be at the forefront of their mind instead of the Korean classic - the Korean movie is dark, twisted, beautiful, heartwrenching and part of it's atmosphere is the due to it being an eastern movie, with an eastern premise and feel about it - it just will NOT work adapted through Western cinema. I really don't think Will Smith can pull off this character, he plays good guys, or guys that are a bit bad but turn out good in the end - I doubt he has the capacity to pull off the tempestuous character of Oh-Dae-Su with his thirst for revenge, his teetering on the edge of madness - Spielberg will butcher the character, it's practically a guarentee, he'll bend it to fit Will Smith's normal type-cast.

Why does Hollywood have to ruin these cult classics.

herculesisadore · 1 month ago

It's not an adaptation of a cult classic Korean film. It's an adaptation of the graphic novel. So far the story presented in the graphic novel, has not yet been told in a pure form. So it could very easily be truer to the manga's intent. Than the Korean cult classic. I have faith in Stephen Spielberg, and am looking forward to this movie.

herculesisadore · 1 month ago

I am looking forward to this new adaptation! Bring it on Smith & Spielberg!

Rafei B · 1 month ago

PG13