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Aussies will argue to the contrary, neither Russell Crowe or Mel Gibson are actually
Australian.
It's a pretty interesting and thought-provoking article, though. Some actors, such as the
late, great Paul Newman, are irreplacable.
As far as possible replacements go, how about Vin Diesel for Bruce Willis? The lack of hair is something they have in common and Vin's already something of a badass in his own right.
I really like Vin Diesel, and I think he's got he potential to be a badass. He's certainly got the most badass name in the history of cinema, IMHO. But I don't think we've really seen what he can do yet. He needs to knuckle down and get deadly serious about picking his scripts. I fear he's well on his way to obscurity at this point.
Clive Owen fits better as the next Connery than Craig. Owen is way too intellectual to be the next Sly (see, Children of Men and Inside Man). Remember, everyone thought he would be the next Bond, he just got too big.
For Sly - I like Karl Urban. He always plays roles where he's just physically intimidating and stoic, like a force of nature.
I actually think Brad Pitt is close to the next Harrison Ford. He's got the acting range and can pull off the "cool without trying" thing.
CHUCK NORRIS seems to be missing.
you should probably be on your guard for a roundhouse kick to the face any time in the near future.
Where the funk is Kurt Russell on this aging bad-ass list?! How in the name of Sweet Optimus Prime do you leave out the man who brought MacReady, Jack Burton and SNAKE MOTHERFU*KING PLISSKEN to life?
He's been plowing Goldie Hawn since the days she was as hot as her daughter!
Not in the sense of the gender, but the mindset of being a MAN?
You know, punching stuff, talking tough, scratching our balls and not giving a shit?
Where did that go?
Nowadays you got Orlando Bloom and Zac Efron, two guys who wear more mascara than any woman they've ever been around.
Even our superheroes have taken on this emo/crybaby attitude:
Spider-Man is a blubbering sissy-mary
Superman's real weakness isn't Kryptonite, it's child support
Remember The Dirty Dozen? That flick was a testament to manliness!
Check the line-up:
Lee Marvin, Charles Bronson, Jim Brown, John Cassavetes, Kojak, and Jack Bauer's dad! They couldn't only kick your ass on film, most of them are record for having kicked ass in real life! Cassavetes would have kicked your ass and made an avant-garde movie about it!
What happened?
The prisoners:
Jamie Hector (played Marlo on THE WIRE and is now featured on HEROES and in the MAX PAYNE movie)
Vin Diesel
Matt Damon
Russell Crowe
Christian Bale
Michael Imperioli
Robert Downey, Jr.
Benicio Del Toro
Javier Bardem
Josh Brolin
Joaquin Phoenix
Don Cheadle
And to take on the Lee Marvin part: Sam Jackson
I have just proposed the most awesome movie ever made.
I agree with Theo, that Clive Owen would much better fit as a replacement for Connery than for Stallone.
And shouldn't Arnold be on the list?
He would be an epic Indiana Jones
http://www.chucknorrisfacts.com/
"I have just proposed the most awesome movie ever made."
How about putting Ben Foster in there somewhere? He has a lot of potential for badassery.
Now for the original list, I have come up with two more that I think should be on it.
Tommy Lee Jones-Regardless of what role the man is playing, his leathery face with the snarl on it and the short bark of his voice constantly give off the impression that he could erupt at any given moment and show you exactly how badass he is!
Arnold Schwarzenegger-The Governator may not be making movies any more, but he should definitely be there. Any guy who can take on a kindergarten class and then experience pregnancy AFTER playing The Terminator and defeating the Predator is definitely a badass in my book!
Can you imagine how awesome a movie starring Clint Eastwood and Charles Bronson would have been? Maybe they would be an elite anti-terrorist team who uses Jack Bauer as their secretary.
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Oh yeah, i guess he doesnt age. And he will never be gone.
Talking about Christian Bale,.. though he could def. be a replacement for someone up there,.. everyone should watch the Machinist and Equilibrium (i think i spelled that right)
However in the long run I don't think any of the guys on that list are going anywhere anytime soon,... I think I would like to seem remake 12 ANGRY MEN with all the older actors now,.. that would be great.
And what happened to Ah-nold,... Hercules in New York is a classic
Interestingly, his co-star on Burn Notice Jeffery Donavan would make an interesting replacement.
NATHAN FILLION
Capt. Mal in Firefly and Serenity. Name has been thrown around to take the hat and whip if they ever make an Indy movie without Ford.
To Andy: No way is Moore a distant #2...David Niven is a better Bond than Moore is. Niven was original preferred to play Bond but the production company chose Connery instead.
His Mal Reynolds in "Firefly" and "Serenity" was what would happen if you mixed up Indy and Han Solo
Spielberg and Lucas would have noticed it if they hadn't been so busy trying to shoehorn Shia LeBouf (God, even his name is wussy) into KOTCS to appeal to the teen demo. I would bought him more as Henry Jones III than gangly-ass Shia.
I don't think the men are gone because of "liberals". Hell "Billy Jack" could be interpreted as liberal, and he could still kick your ass.
Bruce Lee was quite liberal in his philosophy, but I seriously doubt he could be mistaken for a pushover. Here's a cool Chuck Norris Fact: Chuck Norris is a badass only because Bruce Lee is dead.
Manliness has no political affiliation. EVERYBODY likes wants to see the guy with nothing to prove to anyone but himself, the dude who kicks ass and chews bubblegum, and still has the time to love the ladies down with a smooth cognac in his hand (Shaft!!! You damn right!).
I'm just tired of having to go through 90 minutes of tearjerking and hand-wringing to enjoy 30 minutes of ass-kicking (You killed my dreams, Spider-Man 3).
Lastly, am I the only man here who also laments the loss of gratuitous nudity in action movies? Where are the titties!?!
Well, K, I'm female, but I've never minded a little gratuitous nudity in action films. I just always thought it was part of the genre. However, as a female who loves action films, I would ask for a little equal time. Give us a little male nudity to go along with it!
Connery, Willis, Ford... legends. Gibson, not really; he just isn't that charismatic. And Jackson plays too many popular secondary roles for me to recognize him as a badass.
Mark Wahlberg could probably replace Stallone in some roles, but I couldn't picture him doing stuff like Rambo or Rocky. Like Eastwood, Stallone has a distinct "unmoved" look that just makes him a badass, in spite of not being particularly charismatic.
No one's mentioned Dwayne Johnson... I reckon he could make a good Arnie/Stallone type action hero but has been seen in pretty awful movies until now.
He's a much better choice than Vin Diesel, either way.
Nathan Fillion... isn't he in Desperate Housewives?
Don't forget to add "Tombstone" and many others to his resume...
A man who can maintain his cool while hacking up half a lung cannot be ignored, although, ironically, didn't manage to die with his boots on...
No-one will ever replace Connery, no way. Dont even try. Daniel Graig is not considered a bad ass, just because of being in a Bond film. Look at Connery's history and honestly tell me that anyone can replace him, let alone Craig. Stallone will be hard to replace too, although he generally is stereotyped in his Rocky and Rambo films.
So when did Samuel L. Jackson become a bad ass? Even though cool, he is mostly remembered for his quick wit and mouth and his delivery of scripts written for him.
As of late, Travolta could be considered somewhat of a bad ass too.
I consider that statement quite ironic, because I've actually never considered these guys as *real* badasses. As much as I like Schwarzenegger, he was just a brute and could easily have been replaced by the likes of Van Damme, Dolph Lundgren, or other "muscles" with a euro accent. The difference with these guys is that Arnold got the better scripts to work with and the budgets to go with them.
As for Pacino/De Niro (and the fact that it's hard not to associate both supports this point), there's the fact that they're most popular for playing deeply flawed, conflicted characters (i.e., often insane, driven by power and money, centered around crime, drugs, alcohol, deceit, betrayal, etc.) and usually end up dead, all of which isn't very badass in my book. I can't deny that they're top of the line actors, but they'd seem out of place in this list, though I agree Gibson and Jackson do as well.
Also, if Thomas Jane would keep up his badassery like he did in The Punisher, he could definately be onto something. And he whooped the shit out of the killer sharks in Deep Blue Sea for God's sake. And the aliens in Dreamcatcher knew they didnt have a chance either.
But seriously, I think both of these guys could be well-rounded choices. Right up there with Clive Owen and Karl Urban if nothing else.
Also, Viggo Mortensen. How the crap has he not been mentioned yet?
He is also a great choice! He will definately be in some MORE awesome movies.
Anyway, I'm just gonna throw in another possible badass; Josh Holloway (Sawyer from Lost). He's got the "Han Solo" kind of attitude that could fit the bill.
You should probably check them out.
And how can you count Josh Holloway if his only major credit you decided to mention was Lost, which isn't even 1 movie, and you said you have to be in at least 2-3 to count?
I don't think he'll be going anywhere too soon, I thought we were on the same page.
Sorry.
Also, Bruce Campbell. WAY more bad ass than Chuck norris. Note my not capitalizing the last name. Bruce Campbell ups the bad assery of this list 10 fold.
And agree with everyone on the Nathan Fillion comments. Good call for Harrison.
Good list. But as all good lists go, there are a few missing players.
Anyway....I was rather shocked that you suggested Hugh Jackman as a possible replacement for Mel Gibson, but never once mentioned him under Clint Eastwood. Look at any older Eastwood film when he's Hugh's age....man looks like his clone. His portrayal of Wolverine is a good example to go by in the comparison.
he has the golden compass is also a load of shite and he looks good in it
Jason Stathom...interesting guy, Crank showed some personality. But dont' see him ever becomming "great".
Vin could be, if he gets taken more seriously and better scripts. I think he can be more subtle and clever than he gets credit for. Fast and the Furious did nothing to help that...
Clive Owen and Christian Bale could both be greats. Bales' new Terminator movies could really propel him further. Nathan Fillion is brilliant, and needs more movies.
I think Heath Ledger was well on his way to becomming a legend in acting/badassedness. Unfortunatly, we won't get to see what he could do post-Joker.
Lol, Yeah because England has had no bad neighborhoods since we eradicated crime and did away with the social class system in 1804. Clearly Mr Owens weathered looks where gained after a childhood holiday to Diseny world in the 80's