DISQUS

Film School Rejects: Victims of Hype: The Biggest Disappointments of 2008

  • BillBrasky · 10 months ago
    Comedy ... Tropic Thunder and Stepbrothers both made me laugh harder than I remember in '07.

    Moving HP to '09 ticked me off, but it's like getting an extra 6 months to live (the series will inevitably end). On to my next rebuttal, why are you in a rush to end the HP cinematic experience? Why not make the final movie into two films? There won't be anything else in the HP universe ... ever to touch film ... I would rather visit the theater twice and know I will get my $20 worth instead of one HP and one crap (see above list of disappointments).

    It will be a while until I will have a chance to have my literary experience spill so brilliantly onto the screen (Narnia, Twilight, Eragon ... all busts)
  • CaptainReg0981 · 10 months ago
    Sorry Bill I'm agreeing to all you've said so far but Narnia was not really a full disappointment. Having Disney have no or I mean having lack of support for the 3rd movie in the trilogy is a truly disappointment not only that is Fox. Watchmen should've been left alone. As much I liked Fox as well they sound like crybabies trying to take away the movie from WB so they can get the money since WB's Dark Knight's success now thats a disappointment.
  • BillBrasky · 10 months ago
    Comedy ... Tropic Thunder and Stepbrothers both made me laugh harder than I remember in '07.

    Moving HP to '09 ticked me off, but it's like getting an extra 6 months to live (the series will inevitably end). On to my next rebuttal, why are you in a rush to end the HP cinematic experience? Why not make the final movie into two films? There won't be anything else in the HP universe ... ever to touch film ... I would rather visit the theater twice and know I will get my $20 worth instead of one HP and one crap (see above list of disappointments).

    It will be a while until I will have a chance to have my literary experience spill so brilliantly onto the screen (Narnia, Twilight, Eragon ... all busts)

    ... and nice article!!
  • wedge · 10 months ago
    Don't forget The Road and Brothers Bloom also being pushed back into 2009. That sucked.
  • MoMo · 10 months ago
    and "The Soloist"
  • CrazySphinx · 10 months ago
    I actually like Speed Racer. Don't get me wrong, I know it's a bad movie, in the sense that it doesn't know whether it wants to be a colorful kids movie or a long 2 hour plus epic. But I believe I fall into a very tiny group op people that actually enjoyed it.

    That being said, where is The Spirit on the list? It had so much hype.... it's ridiculous!
  • Davebaxter1989 · 10 months ago
    Whoa The Spirit had hype alright BAD hype which it has fulfilled expertly lol
  • CaptainReg0981 · 10 months ago
    thanks Dave.
  • CaptainReg0981 · 10 months ago
    Yea I know but Speed Racer was just poorly made I'm so sorry and Spirit? Yea that is a total disappointment but that will not stop me from watching it...Oh wait I didn't watch Sin City I guess this doesn't give the interest of watching it either.
  • Davebaxter1989 · 10 months ago
    Sarah Marshall and Step Brothers were hilarious and I though Indy 4 did just fine for what I expected. I'll go out on a limb and say that Slumdog AND Ben Button will be looked on in years to come along with Man on Wire and dare I say it Funny Games from this year.
  • CaptainReg0981 · 10 months ago
    Fully agreed!!
  • Matt C · 10 months ago
    I can't see why moving HP 6 to summer 2009 is a big disappointment -- in retrospect, look at all the 2008 films placed before and after November 21 would've taken away from HBP's domestic gross. In terms of die-hard fans, it wasn't the best decision to make (I think people would've been more receptive towards the move if it was announced in January or February 2008 and NOT after TDK became the biggest flick of the summer) but the WB is covering their ass for summer 2009 in case "Watchmen" is delayed and "Terminator Salvation" doesn't rake in the bucks. And the summer 2009 slate is rather pathetic, so moving HBP to July 2009 makes sense financially (and as a fan, I was disappointed but got over it).

    And as for the disappointment over Indy 4 -- well, it's been 19 years and regardless if fans been more receptive to it -- there would've been a good degree of disappointment. And I liked it, it wasn't hideous or unwatchable, but its silliness was on par with the first three flicks. I grew up on the first two flicks (LC didn't jive with me), but I didn't feel like Lucas and Spielberg raped my childhood.
  • 790 · 10 months ago
    Here we have another critic that I'm going to assume is NOT a fan of the original Speed Racer cartoon bashing the film because it stayed true to its original storyline. If you are a fan of the original cartoon you would see the brilliance that is Speed Racer. But like most you can't enjoy the film for what it is.... Too bad.
  • Annie G · 10 months ago
    My biggest disappointment was Quantum of Solace! It was a mediocre Bond movie looking at the entire history, but after they showed us that they could actually get it right in Casino Royale, I almost wept after this one.
  • TheGreenMalice · 10 months ago
    I can see Slumdog standing its ground in the long haul. Maybe it will be the movie that helped bridge the gap between Hollywood and Bollywood. After oscar season, and when it is released on dvd I can see it gaining a following. Is it a really relevant thought provoking film along the lines of There Will Be Blood or No Country? No. It is on the other hand a beautifully crafted thrill of a movie. I don't think TDK will be remembered as a classic, but I do believe it will be remembered.
  • Quenfis · 10 months ago
    Your last three paragraphs on the wrap up of this article were unnecessary and the political part was ridiculous. This is probably the worst article I've read on this site. Not that I didn't agree with most of it. It was just over opinionated and pointless.
  • 790 · 10 months ago
    These comments are posting out of order at least on my end,,,, hmm.
  • Seanithan · 10 months ago
    Indiana Jones was the biggest disappointment of my life.

    The other 3 are my all-time favorite movies and to even suggest this is part of the same series is ridiculous. They claimed they would use the same cameras as the first film and NO CG to keep it like the old ones.. but what do you see 5 minutes into the movie (right after Indy survives a nuclear blast by hiding in a refrigerator and flying 400 feet into the air and somehow still surviving) a fucking CG prairie dog.

    WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT?

    The fucking MONKEY had Shia's Hairstyle.

    Fuck George Lucas.
  • Adam_Sweeney · 10 months ago
    I personally think the CG prairie dog was the greatest cinematic achievement in the career of George Lucas. I mean it didn't act any worse than Natalie Portman in the Star Wars prequels. Zing! Natalie, forgive me for that joke if and when I ever interview you. :)
  • John · 10 months ago
    I don't care what anybody says. Indiana Jones was NOT a bad movie. So what if it wasn't quite on a par as the first three? It was still an entertaining film that provided this viewer with a great deal more fun than the hugely over-rated Dark Knight.

    And I really wish some of you people would learn to carry on a conversation without having to resort to the use of four-letter words. It makes you sound like an uneducated buffoon.
  • Seanithan · 10 months ago
    Well, there's one thing that makes a person look like more of an uneducated buffoon than "four letter words" and that's claiming that Indiana Jones 4 was not a bad movie.

    The first 3 Indiana Jones movies are not just classic movies, they're movies that Spielberg and Lucas made as a tribute to the movies and TV shows they loved to watch as kids. NOT QUITE ON PAR is the largest understatement of the year. This film was made for MONEY and MONEY alone with absolutely no thought of integrity or the reasons they first made the Indiana Jones films.

    This was NOT a good film. This was a film that was produced with the sole intent of making money. There's not one enjoyable scene in the movie. Everything looks like they tried REALLY hard and everything failed miserably.

    Ants crawling up to get that guy. WHAT? Swinging through the trees to land on a car?! FUCK THAT. Aliens at the end. Poor acting all around. Even Harrison Ford was bad, and that's difficult to do. I'm assuming it's difficult to act when you know you're absolutely destroying an iconic film character.

    As for the personal insults John, you can't go ahead and call me an uneducated buffoon because I throw the word fuck in here and there when you, just two posts down are saying that Batman is "just as twisted and screwed up as the villains he fights". THAT'S THE POINT.

    Anyway, please don't say Indiana Jones was not bad without going back and watching it again. Just look at all the little things (the big things too, actually).
  • John · 10 months ago
    As a matter of fact I watched Indy 4 again just last night with my sons. We all had a great time. Sorry you don't seem to be able to share in that. Just as the original films were amde in the spirit of the old 1930s movies serials, this movie was supposed to be in the tradition the sci-fi movies of the 50s, the time period in which the movie was set. Some of us get and some of us don't, I suppose.

    All I know is that Harrison Ford knows Indiana Jones better than anybody, and HE liked the movie. That's good enough for me.

    And by the way, since when is Batman being as much of a mental case as his villains the point? Batman is supposed to be the HERO. Yeah, I know, I guess that's something of an old-fashioned concept to some of you young bucks.

    I don't claim to be an expert, but I do know this: I had the opportunity to meet Bob Kane once when I was working as a newspaper reporter in the Chicago area and he attended a comic book convention there. I had the chance to spend some time with the man, get some insights as to this character he co-created. Based on that conversation I just can't see him looking at this movie as being a true representation of his creation.

    I will concede that it is a pretty accurate depiction of Batman as re-imagined by Frank Miller. But that is in no way meant as a compliment. Miller represents everything I hate about what's happened to comics since around the mid-80s. His stuff has absolutely no charm about it whatsoever. His heroes are as nasty as his villains, so there's nobody to root for. Maybe that's why his movie version of "The Spirit" is so lousy. Maybe that's why a lot of us who were reading comic books before anyone was changing your diapers find so little to enjoy about the genre anymore.

    I don't mind Miller wanting to explore the dark side of human nature if that's his schtick - but let him do it with his own characters, as he did with "Sin City." Quit messing up these iconic characters others created that have been around and known and loved for decades. Me, I'm ready for a return to some good old fashioned adventure stories where you can tell the difference between the heroes and villains you leave the theatre feeling better than you did going in. Guess that's a foreign concept these days, too.

    One last thing and I'll crawl back under my rock. My observation about your language was just that - an observation. I try to be more mature about such things, but trust me - you'll know it when I've really insulted you.

    Peace...
  • Seanithan · 10 months ago
    I don't think Harrison Ford REALLY liked the movie. The man can't easily go out there and say he doesn't like it. Anyway, I'm glad you enjoyed the movie but considering I had such high hopes for it I'm thoroughly disappointed. Before the shooting, Spielberg and Lucas wrote to the press about how there would be little to no CG and said it would be shot with the same film cameras that were used for the original trilogy. This is obviously not the case.

    The movie "The Dark Knight" is based off Frank Miller's Batman, I'm pretty sure, and as a result is much darker. I'm down with seeing the flawless hero against the evil villain every once in a while, but something I'd like to sit down and get some humanity out of these characters. Nobody is good all the time. Everyone is flawed in some way and it's interesting to see characters make the wrong choices sometimes because of mixed up emotions or just plain selfishness. It's realistic. It may not be as light-hearted and fun but if I leave a film where the hero triumphs over the villain too many times I start to get bored. It's fun o mix it up here and there. I agree, though, that Frank Miller's version of Batman may not be the truest version, but it's the version Chris Nolan decided to portray. Plus, as you said of Indy it's just a FUN movie. Cool stunts, explosions, interesting character portrayal, etc. The difference between the two films is that Batman is a re-imagining of a character and the Indy film is supposed to be an extension of the story and it really just falls so short when compared to the originals.

    Side note: Frank Miller is a terrible director and the reason Sin City worked was because Rodriguez basically was the director and Miller helped point him in certain directions.

    Anyways, the observation about my language was intended as an insult, but that's fine. I'm not really offended. Have a good one man.
  • John · 10 months ago
    Given that Harrison Ford has never been shy in the past about movies he's been in that he ultimately was not happy with, and the fact that he has said more than once that he enjoyed working on Indy 4 so much he actually would like to come back and do a fifth, I think it;s safe to say he DID like this movie. With regards to CG - I will agree there was more than I had originally anticipated, but that doesn't bother me; the effects are simply a tool, whether CG or not.

    As for your comments about The Dark Knight and flawed heroes, we will simply have to agree to disagree. Sure, in real life everyone is flawed. Batman ain't real life. It's make believe. And the reason make believe is a fun place to visit is because it isn't real life. The heroes CAN be flawless; I don't expect that in real ife but I don't think it's too much to ask for in a fantasy. If I want real life I'll stay home from the theater and go on about my everyday life.

    There's nothing fun about The Dark Knight. Cool stunts and explosions? Yes. Interesting character portrayals? At times. (Personally I think Heath Ledger was better in The Patriot, but that's a whole other argument...) But fun? Not by a long shot.

    You're right about one thing: Frank Miller is a terrible director. He's not much of a writer or artist either, but that's just my opinion.

    In any event, I won't think any less of you for liking The Dark Knight if you'll cut me some slack for preferring Indy 4. At the end of the day, they're just movies, after all. And everybody has different tastes.

    Peace....
  • CaptainReg0981 · 10 months ago
    I see everyone is quite angry with Harry Poo Poo is moved to 09 but I believe WB has a point of whny they do move it to 09. For the fact that they wanted to make sure no other movies or they wanna make sure the movie will make money and make possible last minute adjustments to the movie. Forgetting Sarah M is not as bad as well there were hit right on the mark other than that it was quite decent.

    NOW Indy4 what can I say? That was just awful if you were to get a tiny boat with other 6 memeber and riding 3 high waterfalls? Don't you think you would've gotten hurt or off the boat? or even topsy turvy? Now Shia Labouf swinging on the trees?

    Still awaiting to see Ben Button.
  • shirley · 10 months ago
    I THINK THE DARK KNIGHT WILL BE REMEMBER AS A CLASSIC.
  • John · 10 months ago
    I don't get why this film is so popular. There is no hero; this version of Batman is just as twisted and screwed up as the villains he fights. The closest that Hollywood has ever gotten to getting this character right in terms of matching the original comic books was the first Michael Keaton movie.

    I got to the movies to be entertained and to have a good time. The Dark Knight provided none of this. The title says it all - it was TOO DARK.

    Of course, I'm one of those old fogies who grew up watching the Adam West TV show, so I guess my opinion doesn't count for much. Hey, Fox, when are we going to see THAT series released on DVD?
  • Nish · 10 months ago
    I think Speed Racer would have been so so much better if it was in 3-D. My brain was filled with sugar then raped by that movie, and I would have enjoyed it even more if it was in 3-d.
  • Mack41 · 10 months ago
    Comedy-Charlie Bartlett-so under rated and one of RDJ's best performances of the
    year

    Dark Knight-classic and doesn't need a stupid statue to tell us

    And for your dissapointments from last year I really liked pirates 3. Great year though