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2) These clips are decent, but really poorly packaged. No commentary. No context. And yeah, a lot of giggling. Since when do we show interview time with the two main actors and don't have them say anything? It's probably just indicative of a smaller producer (like Summit) not being as good at PR as a major studio. Hopefully that doesn't translate to the film quality.
think the books are anti-feminism. Bella is a ridiculously weak and uninteresting character,
and she couldn't carry the books, so how can she carry a film? I'm sick of helpless female
characters that don't want to live if their love interests aren't around. That is sooo 17th
century.
For the second question, the movie is warming up to me slowly. I will be excited when it comes out but im worried I will be critiquing it the entire time like I did with the Harry Potters. But I always end up liking both in there own special way. As far as what ive seen it looks fantastic!!!! Bella and Edward after thinking about it, look like Bella and Edward and all the Cullens look just like the Cullens in my mind. So, so far, I have not been disapointed by the flim.
Sara Awesome: There's a reason why Stephenie Meyer has Bella reading books such as Wuthering Heights and quoting plays like Romeo and Juliet.
Please do trash the movie!!! No, it is not a action packed dude movie, and no it is not your typical sex-packed romantic comedy, but regardless it will be seen by the TRUE fans who are literally in love with the characters. And its not just for teens, LOTS of ages read it. My grandma is even reading it. Just because it is mostly about teenagers doesn't mean they are not relatable to adult audiences. Thanks for reading!!! I cannot wait for 12-12-08!
This is my point. What I am saying is that there are a lot of folks who will not read the book before seeing the movie. It doesn't necessarily mean that they are less intelligent, just that for some, their first exposure will be through the film's marketing, thus driving them into theaters to meet Edward and Bella for the first time. It doesn't mean that they don't read, just that they've never read Twilight -- and there are people who have never read Twilight, they do exist.
That said, I am a firm believer that a filmmaker who is adapting a book to film should always strive to make the film accessible to all viewers. In a sense, if the film is successful then I shouldn't have to read Twilight in order to enjoy and understand the film. In fact, in this day-and-age of constant adaptation, the film is often the catalyst -- a good film can make people want to go out and read the book. It happened to me with The Mist and Iron Man. Seeing the films made me want to go out and find more.
As well, I have a feeling that there were people who went out and bought the Harry Potter books solely on the basis that they enjoyed the first film. And at this point I am not sure if Twilight is going to be that sort of film -- but I am not ready to stand firm on that as of yet, as we have seen so little up to this point. It does worry me, though.
To Sara's response about the books being 17th century and anti-feminist, I'd like to remind you that Bella is just a human that can only dream of being powerful, strong, etc. like the vampires (and that clearly is the point of the story). Stephenie's response to those who feel that Bella is weak... is: Bella's story is not done yet. And honestly, Bella was ready to sacrifice herself in the third book, how can you call that weak? Bella is also supposed to represent a normal girl in an abnormal situation; if she were anything more than that (like amazing beautiful and popular), she would lose her appeal. Granted you are entitled to dislike the story, but it seems that your idea of Bella isn't the same idea Stephenie had in mind. [sorry when ppl say things like this it really annoys me]
As Sammi K put forth, Bella is a VERY HUMAN girl thrust into some super human situations. She isn't helpless, she's human. This is also a very frustrating situation for Bella. She states herself that she's tired of not being able to help and can't wait to actually be able to fend for herself.
Also as stated before by Elisabeth, Bella is strong emotionally when it comes to protecting those she loves. She's just no slayer.
Other's point to Bella's cooking for her father all the time as "anti-feminist", which I think is unfair. Bella's not cooking because she's female. Nor does she or her father think she should be cooking b/c she's female. She's cooking if simply not eat her father's "cooking". Now, why dad can't cook, we can totally get into..but I don't see this activity as "anti-feminist"
Now, as to questions about the packaging we've still got 5 months until the release...so it might be just a little to early to judge. To me it seems they're doing a bit of fanservice to get the fans into it and buzzing EVEN MORE about it, word of mouth and all. However, I'm sure as the clock ticks down, it'll get better and more pointed to those who haven't read the books.
I am very excited for the movie as it seems Kristen and Rob have some excellent chemistry. I'm also excited to see how they present the stories that take place outside of Bella's head. I love the stuff I've seen from the film! However, I've seen a lot more than what's posted here b/c I'm such a ginormous fan. You might want to look up the stuff on Twilight Lexicon's youtube channel (which is under some other name, but search for it and you'll find it easily) as well as their (printed) interviews on the site.
Twilight is a love story involving vampires and teenagers. I know that doesn't answer your question, but I have to say the books are much more than just "I'm in love with a vamp and it's sexy dangerous". There's questions about choices and what humanity actually means, what does it mean to have a soul, etc..
story is about the forbidden fruit of the love that they have. In response to what Sara said
about it being anti-feminist i completely disagree. I think Stephenie Meyer portrayed Bella
in such a way to show the real difference between Bella and Edward. You also forget to look
at the other female characters the author has put in the series such as Esme, Alice and
Rosalie who are all powerful women. As for the movie appealing to the non-readers, i
believe it will appeal to film watchers same as any other movie. Those interested in that
genre will see it and those who aren't wont.
And I loved Penelope, too.
COLE, Why haven't we seen your review of New Moon and Eclipse? I'm still laughing over the first one that was too funny for words.
TO SARA: Feminism is about being allowed the choice to follow whatever path you want wether its to be a caretaker or an astronaut or a president.
NOTE TO SUMMIT: I will be buying Penelope on Tuesday anyway!
Teens plus Vampires leave me a bit cold.
This series is a romance/action/teen angst novel that just happens to invole mythical creatures (vampires/etc.)
I am convincing all of my freinds and family to read them. And they all LOVE them and usually they all have differnt taste in books. I have my sister (who loves like dragons and junk) reading them, my friends (who usually read like gossip girl and stuff), my aunt (who is like 40!), and even one of my GUY friends (who took a lot of convincing but loves them).
Read these books, you will not regret it!
"...so is it a teeny-bopper romance story with a vampire backdrop or is it a vampire story that just so happens to be about teenagers?" << My impression is they're marketing it as the former. But to non-Twilighters, based on what's been released, you don't even get an inkling that this film has vampires in it, so at times, all you get is the teeny-bopper romance. It feels like they want to appeal to the fans, but not necessarily to those who don't know what Twilight is. But although there are a lot of fans, that's not guaranteed to make the film a success (case in point: Eragon). The fans will already go see the film, there's very little need to woo them. Robert Pattinson and Kristen Stewart hardly count as "stellar billing" either, so is it safe to bank on them so much? Kristen hasn't even impressed me in what I've seen of her as Bella so far. The PR people should show viewers, specifically non-Twilighters, other reasons to see the film.
As for not reading Twilight until the film comes out... It'll be great to read your take on the film vs. Cole's take. I myself abstained from reading "Prince Caspian" before seeing it, and it gave me a different perspective of the film compared to the Narnia fans I saw the film with. :)
I will go see the movie. BUT I'm afraid that I will be disappointed with the quality and quantity of what I see. So even a DIE HARD TWILIGHTER like me is going to agree with Neil.
Also, the movie is still in post production with several months to go. With that being said, any clips, etc that you come across may not really depict what will be on the screen. I am sure Summit is just trying to put out a little here and there to keep the die hards happy. (thanks Summit)
For the question of the movie/book being a teen movie about vamps or vamp story with teens... It really isn't a teeny bopper book series. Matter of fact, I am 30something with a teen daughter and think the books are almost too "grown up" for her. My other 30something friends are the one's who recommended the series and we all love it. So, while it appeals to a broad age range, I think it "just happens to be about teenagers".
As thrilled as I am that the fan base stretches to all ages, it can be a bit frustrating that it gets tied into the "teen" catagory.
Now It really gets frustrating when people label Twilight as a teen book. Yes the characters are teenagers but everyone could take a lesson from Bella and Edward. And when I saw everyone, I do mean everyone from a sixteen-year-old teenage girl like myself to a sixty year old grandmother to a thirty year old male.
who has been devoted to the series since it came out in 2005. However, I was shocked
to find out the book was considered Young Adult after reading the first one. The second
two especially have more adult themes in them. I don't believe it is a teenage vampire
book... i read some of those when I was a teen and remember them being written
differently. These vamps just happen to be teens in my opinion.
The first Harry Potter book came out when I was eleven years old and I didn't even see
the first movie when it came out b/c I was afraid it would not live up to expectations....
and it didn't. And though all of the HP movies have disappointed me in some way, I still
love them b/c I love that story. I think Twilight will be the same way for most of the
fans. I believe in Robert Pattinson's and Kristen Stewart's ability to bring something to
these characters. The budget of this film is low in comparison to other major studios, key
word being MAJOR. Summit is not a huge studio, but I think that if Twilight delivers, the
sequels will have a bigger budget.
Currently, I agree with others on the marketing... it hasn't yet been aimed toward anyone
other than Twilight fans. It will be interesting to see how the second trailer is received
when it is released TOMORROW. And how things change as it gets closer to December.
I'm not even going to touch on the topic of Bella and feminism... what I feel in response
to that arguement has already been said: Bella is a HUMAN who hangs out with
VAMPIRES, of course she is weak in comparison to the company she keeps.
Secondly, I have to disagree with the comment that Twilight is only meant for teens. I have talked to people well over the age of twenty five who have read the book and have really enjoyed it. There is even a fan website called the "Twilight Moms".
Lastly, I think that it is too early to tell whether or not the film version will be appealing to those who haven't read the book. It doesn't even come out for five months. I'm sure that once we get closer, the marketing will switch from the crazed and rabid fans (don't worry, I'm one too :D) to everyone who hasn't read this book.
to please anybody yet. These videos seems to be targeting Twilight fans and making them
happy cuz its short and not a lot of people would understand unless you've read the books.
But the recent trailer, which showed on Entertainment Tonight on tuesday evening (it will be
out Thurs. on the web) is a really good trailer. And im not saying that just cuz im a fan but i
think it catches people's attention. It's longer and definitely better! You guys and FSR can
check it out cuz its on youtube =)
From what I've seen...ehh...I think the tone is far to serious.
I don't know. For me Twilight was never SRS BIZNIZ!!!!11 and its a little off putting for it to seem that way. Its just an easy(addicting, when it sticks) summer read, and I think they made it too dark.
Its definitely NOT a horror. I don't know why they're even trying to market it that way.
But yeah. :] As a fan of the series, I'm just praying it won't be horrible.
I just hope Hot Topic jumps on the Twilight bandwagon and gives me a reason to buy more shit I don't need. Twilight pins, shirts, lanyards, coffee mugs, posters, keychains, etc...
Though I hope that it appeals to the right market. Twilight is mainly romance with some action and the throw in of vampires.
New Moon is the book that seems to get under people's skin, but just hear (or is it read??) me out: Edward was no better than her. In fact, he was WORSE. FAR worse. The fact Bella could be normal enough to go to school, ride bikes with Jake, go hiking and do normal-people things is an amazing feat.
Remember...vampire love is not normal, human love.
Eclipse...Bella made a choice here. In Twilight, if she had had to make this choice, she would have been lost trying to make everyone happy. She was still a wreck here (briefly!), but she was able do it.
Neil: There's no such thing as a movie as good as the book it's based on. Golden Compass, anyone?
I think of Twilight as a STORY...with teens and vampires thrown in. Breaking Dawn might be a vampire story, but the first three are all too personal and too human to be classified as "fantasy novel". The fact teenagers are in it is almost irrelevant - especially as quite a few of those "teenagers" are 90+!"
I have recently read the Twilight Series and I have to say that I absolutely loved them! I am very excited for the movie and everything I've seen so far looks pretty good. At first, I was a little skeptical about the actors they picked but they've kind of grown on me, so I'll just have to wait to see how they do. I don't care if the movie doesn't live up to the first book because everyone knows that books are always better than the movie. And in my opinion the first book is the best out of the whole series (not including #4 of course) and that’s a pretty big quota to fill. For those of you who choose to be 'different' and not read the books before going to the movie then that’s great, but don't whine and critique every little thing about it please! It's not like this is the first time a movie was made from a popular book and if this film does end up being horrible and cheesy well...this wouldn’t be the first movie to have done that would it?
Read the books because they are amazing!
But Twilight fans will love it. The rabbid fans will chew anyone who so much as criticises the movie.
Every new clip that comes out gets me more excited about it. I can't wait!!!
casting is great. The series is very much so a "vampire story that just so happens to be
about teenagers" when you are reading the book you don't feel that Bella is really an
average teenager just an average human. Which makes her obsessive interest for a
strange drop-dead gorgeous boy who, may be a vampire, increasingly interesting. How
it transfers on film is the main issue. Twilight has the greatest potential to be wonderful.
Screw it up and it has the greatest potential to crash and burn. Summit just needs to be
smarter about their promotion. The worst possible scenario is the movie ending up to be
too slow paced or cheesy, because the books are most definitely not. I love seeing all
these clips and things but I honestly don't want to see the whole movie before
December. I have faith in this movie. It doesn't matter if you see the movie before you
read the book. But you should be aware that you are missing out on the amazing
experience that Twilight offers.
As for loving the movies if you haven't seen the books? How can anyone know until they've seen them? I think if a person goes to watch them with an open mind, they will enjoy the storyline and action of the film. I think that knowing a person is willing to love without holding back is the true "catch" of the story and I hope that will come across in the film.
I'm a bit worried about the film because I know movies can ruin excellent books (ie Eragon).
When it comes to whether or not Twilight is a teenie-bopper love story or not, I would most definitely have to say that its not. Its a timeless love story, sure the main characters are teenagers, but the story is endearing. Doesn't one of life's greatest and most quoted love story talk place between two teenagers? Romeo and Juliet were the same age, but the world still idolizes their story. Does being teenagers make Edward and Bella's love less true? Is it just because their story takes place in modern day that they cant be capable of knowing true and everlasting love? So i must say that just because the main characters are teenagers doesn't mean that it is just a run of the mill teenie-bopper love story, its more than that. It's deeper and more complex than that. In my opinion, the only reason these books are classified in the YA section of book stores is because the characters are younger and it doesn't have the sex and language that you find in most books now days. If one dives deeper into the books you can find underlying morals and values in every situation brought up throughout the story. It questions humanity and showcases the struggle between good and evil right and wrong. And I have to say that I have full faith that Summit, Cathrine Hardwicke, and the cast and crew will bring all this to the screen and leave the audience wanting more.
categorized as young adult material. Case in point -- I've already told my tween
daughter that she may only read Twilight when she is in her senior year in high school
and not any earlier, or better yet, when she's in college already. I feel that the series is
too 'grown up' for her -- i think she has to become more emotionally mature in order to
correctly process the various 'adult' themes and issues tackled in the series.
To add to these adult issues, I feel that the series is undoubtedly a lot more passionate,
intense and sensual that any adult romance novels i've read (and believe me, I've seen
them all, voracious reader that I am). Everyone who has read the books can surely attest
to this fact.
As for Twilight the movie, I like what I've so far seen in the clips and trailers. I've never
been a fan of Rob and Kristen, but I think that they are doing exceptional jobs in their
portrayal of Edward and Bella. One earlier post raised a question about how safe it is for
the studio to bank on their so called "stellar billings" -- I believe that they have much
more than that to offer the movie, and that is pure, unadulterated talent, something
that's already apparent in the clips and trailers released to the public. It's only proper to
manage our expectations of the film, something that Summit has been doing in saying
that they are making Twilight the Movie, not Twilight the Book into The Movie. It's never
easy to adapt a book into the big screen. There's bound to be a lot of changes and
adjustments to the story. And this is always inevitable when you change from one format
of expression into an entirely different medium.
im soooo excited to see this movie.
and second,
the person who said that bella is weak, well shes not. shes seems weak because obviously the vampires are soo strong, so how can she compare to them.
and before anyone starts dissing the books or the author, maybe they should try to read it first.
At first i was disappointed about the movie but i got used to it.
thanks
so don't judge a book by the movie haha!
poster for Twilight. The books had been reccomended to me by EVERYONE at school and
a few people online. So after falling in love with the poster, I bought all three books.
I was hooked. I picked up the first one, read it in a day. Next day read New Moon and
the next Eclipse.
The books were amazing so it'll be interesting how the finished product of Twilight
comes out. For one, I was horribly sad at the casting of Edward, Bella and Jacob. They're
the three main characters and I didn't think any of them were right.
But then I began watching clips like these and I've warmed up to them. Kristen has always
been a really good dramatic actress, Robert has that ability to dazzle you and Taylor is a
really good depiction of The Big Bad Wolf (as refferanced by Jacob in New Moon).
Of course the movie is never as good as the books but I'm excited to see how it turns
out. Most of my friends hate to read so they'll be seeing the movies with no prior
knowledge apart from what I've told them.
Come one people She is Strong. and i think S.M showed taht woman have a lot of strength that we cant even imagine...
NOW FOR ECLIPSE I THINK I WILL CRY LESS.. BECAUSE THE SADDEST PART IS WHEN BELLA ADMITS SHE IS IN LOVE WITH BOTH THE BLOOD SUCKER AND THE DOG *I LUV CALLING THEM LYK THAT, ITS SOUNDS MORE CUTE FOR ME; I WOULD MIND HAVIN A BLOOD SUCKER MYSELF*
NOW FOR BREAKING DAWN.. I WILL CRY FOR EVER SINGLE STINKING PART BECAUSE THE BOOK IS SO BEAUTIFUL... NOW, OF COURSE I WONT CRY WHEN THEY ARE HAVING YOU KNOW WHAT.. I WILL CRACK UP IN THAT PART.. LOLZ
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