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First. the book is from Bella's perspective and it has a lot of what's going on in her mind during this. This makes her really easy to relate to. The movie will either have mood killing dialogue or just have the atress which doesn't connect as well.
Also, in the book it focuses more on their love for eah other and even during the big climati sequence its all about Bella thinking of Edward. So either the movie can focus on that (and possibly make it work like Titanic did which is very unlikely) or focus on the action and alienate a lot of the fanbase.
Third, do not go see this movie if you hate talkative teenagers. This is important. There will be a lot of girls talking about how ugly Edward is, how they changed this, how it is all wrong.
I think this is a hard movie to make and by using what seems like horrible casting choices it will be a shock if it is a good movie. The second book will be even harder to cast since Edward is there only at the beginning and end and about half the book is considered by some as a huge pile of shit.
That was my overly long answer but to sum up: it will probably be bad but there will be a ton of talkative teenagers at each showing so it might make some money.
It really is like Romeo & Juliet on Steroids. It has everything a book, and a movie, should have. Romance, intensity, lust, passion, action, horror, fantasy, comedy..you name the emotion, Twilight has it.
I'm a huge HP nerd, to a pretty obsessive point, but they aren't the same by a longshot- to compare them in any way is pretty hard- the only similarity is that they both have rabid fan bases. I think this movie is going to put summit on the map, and these almost unknown actors will be who everybody is talking about come Christmas.
Rob Hunter: Check out the 5000+ registered users on TwilightMoms.com, a site devoted to Twilight fans over the age of 25. Several similar fan sites have comparable membership and they all have scores of unregistered visitors each day. There is a huge underground buzz right now, but a teaser trailer is set to come out in May, followed by what I can only assume will be a rigorous summer and fall of advertising in theaters and on TV. The production company and all of the cast and crew are eager to see the sequels come to pass, from what they have mentioned in interviews and articles. Given the fact that a placeholder website is already up for the film, I see a lot of internet advertising coming our way as well, possibly on Myspace and the like which would guarantee a viral (if you will) spread of info about the movie. The music is being chosen by the gal who supervises the soundtrack for Gossip Girl and Grey's Anatomy, both incredibly popular for their music, so a very current soundtrack will also generate interest. The primary cast members that have been selected each have a strong following, and the crew working on this film have worked on very current, very modern television and blockbuster-type movies, so this will not be a B-rated dud that will collect cobwebs on the shelf at Hollywood Video. The stunts, special effects, soundtrack, etc. should be top-notch.
Jillian Norrie: Sure, there are nay-sayers who will forever disagree with the casting decisions, but it is impossible to cast the characters that have been developed in the minds of readers long before the movie was ever a thought. You can't please everyone, or bring everyone's ideal 17 year-old impossibly beautiful vampire to life. As director Catherine Hardwicke mentioned in one of the MTV clips, the movie will show a lot of the action that is implied in Bella's narration, but not necessarily detailed in the book. I think that's smart, it will draw in a female AND male audience, fill out the parts of the story that could be considered "slow" in a movie, and make it more likely for the film to achieve good box office numbers. (In turn, making sequels possible.) I am ALL for seeing my favorite books on the big screen, so even if some creative liberties are taken, I will be grateful for the chance to see someone's vision of the book played out. Not all of us can produce and direct movies, so I'm just happy that someone was willing to pay for it and take it on!
I'm not psychic, but I think I can safely predict that this movie will see a strong opening on December 12, and be followed closely by adaptations of the next three books in the series. If the flipping Hostel movies can be duplicated, so can this one! :)
i've read the whole series until it stops and i'm eager for the next book.
i have a feeling that this movie might not get to our expectations because usually as book movies go...they cut things and don't make the picture in your head really real...
anyways...
it's worth a shot.... i'll just watch it for the heck of it..
yay! To twilight... time can only tell what the movie will turn out to be....
honestly...i just wanna see Tyler Posey for Jacob Black... he totally fits the picture in my head..
haha! :]]
I fully support the cast and appreciate the fact that the film is being made with lesser known actors (who will not go unnoticed for much longer) and though some of them have bodies of work not widely viewed (Robert Pattinson for example) I have seen much of his work here in England and he is incredibly talented, as is Kristen Stewart and they will do these beloved characters justice.
All in all, I feel very strongly that this film is going to live up to the 'hype' as you call it. There are thousands of fans dying to see it and I am fairly certain they will see it numerous times.
Just throwing that out there, 'case ya didn't know.
As for the casting choices, I'm glad they picked actors based on talent and chemistry (from the few clips we've seen and from what we've heard from Catherine Hardwicke, Rob and Kristin have amazing chemistry) not looks alone, although I'm perfectly happy in the looks department. In my opinion the books are about emotion. It's the feel of them that drives the fans crazy. To me it doesn't matter what the movie looks like as long as the emotion is there in all its intense, heart-stopping glory.
To address the HP/Twilight comparison, I will first say that I've been a HP fan since the release of the second book. That's half my life! HP created a world within the world. Twilight created a world within our hearts. Therein lies the difference.
I'm sorry I can't remember the exact article at the moment, but one of the directors (not Catherine) said that he has worked on films with Will Smith, Jennifer Aniston etc and has never seen this much devotion/hype from fans (driving across the states to the set). This would lead me to believe that no matter what the film is like, there will still be HUGE crowds flocking to the theaters. Sanguina is absolutely right in her comment (hi fellow TM :D). I hated the HP movies, but I still go see them in the theater. I have no doubt that I'll love Twilight though! :D
Thanks for this article. I thought it was very well done. Come check out TwilightMoms...you will see a whole other side of the fanbase!
I actually have no doubt it has the potential to knock Harry Potter off the #1 spot again (though which movie ultimately will make more money will depend entirely on how GOOD a job Summit does with adapting it...Harry Potter definitely has a broader fan base at the moment...but let's see how many of our husbands/boyfriends/etc. we can force into seeing this movie with us :-)
I know I plan on seeing it multiple times if it even comes CLOSE to reaching my expectations for it...and I'm 25. I haven't seen a movie more than once in the theater since I was in high school!!
And thank you for this article.. It was nice to read one from someone who actually seemed to know what the story was about!
With all due respect to the impassioned fans of this PG-13 Anne Rice-lite lit, a website with 5000+ registered members won't even break the skin at the box-office. 5000 X $10/ticket (assuming the "moms" don't drop the kiddies at daycare and head to the cheaper matinees) is only 50k. Even if they saw the movie ten times each you're still at only half a million $. Even with "several similar fan sites" these numbers aren't enough, especially since odds are most of these fans are registered on multiple sites. MTV will keep doing what Summit is undoubtably paying them to do each week, ad nauseum, but the series will need a lot more than that to enter the public conciousness in any meaningful way.
I'm a fan myself, (not of Twilight obviously, but of many maligned book-to-screen renditions) so I wish you all luck in getting the movie you want and deserve. Just don't be surprised if the sequels end up premiering at Blockbuster.
That said, the first movie will still open to bigger box-office than Charlie Kaufman's Synecdoche, NY.
Smart move not going directly up against HP (and who would?) but they are rolling the dice with the release date just a bit.
Still, if it's done well enough, it could be an awesome series.
A movie franchise this big will not go directly to DVD. That is so stupid. Oh and never-ever call it an Anne-Rice-Lit Lite. I hate Anne Rice.
Have you ever read Twilight? Hmm I didn't think so. Try reading before you bash.
The comparison to Harry Potter isn't based on plot, it's based on the fact that it's a huge fantasy series which has spawned a huge franchise of movies and merchandise, which is what Twilight looks to be shaping up to do. What everyone wants to know is will it catch the attention of the mainstream the same way Potter has, so that it continues on to be as big. Something has to fill the void left by Harry when book 7 is finally completed, and Twilight's sequels could step in nicely.
As for internet buzz, I agree that the buzz started elsewhere, but I'm unsure as to where it hit the mainstream, as opposed to Twilight fansites. Superherohype.com might rave about a comic-book movie, but we expect buzz on that from there, but when it starts hitting the other sites (/film, for example) then the buzz kicks up a notch. Plus, wow is MTV pushing the boat out on Twilight coverage!
As for the mis-spelling of the author, I honestly thought I caught all the typos, sorry!
And by the way.. her name is StephEnie Meyer and Edward is a junior in highschool, not a senior.
Other than that
Very nice article.
Go F*** yourself.
Most of the people, including me are really loyal to the series. Me and 17(!) people I know are planning on going to the midnight release party for the 4th book, and we also have planned on seeing the movie more than once. (I signed up for optimum reward so I could get free movie nights)
And i do NOT like Harry Potter.
There is no comparison because Twilight is so much BETTER than Harry Potter.
And yeah, Twilight's gonna be big.
All of my best friends have read it, and the ones who haven't read it are going to read it and see the movie.
Also, Lauren is right, because these people who keep writing articles for Twilight always screw something up, so maybe delve a little deeper into the book series before you write an article on it.
whew, glad i got that off my chest!
I totally agree that this movie will be the next Harry Potter, not genre and story wise, but definately money wise. Popularity is spreading like wild fire, and the fandom is getting bigger and bigger, and more obsessed. Get ready, because we are crazy!
The fanbase is hugh and that in and of itself will carry it through. Thanks for the article.
Not to mention the twilightmoms. They stalk the set. (And I thank them for that every day.) They wormed their way into getting to "official press" status for Summit. The books are often sold out or reserved the day they come out in book stores. I speak from personal experience. Have you seen what happens when someone bashes Robert Pattinson these days? It's not pretty. This fanbase is rabid--maybe not as much so as the HP books, but the closest thing. I am going to personally see the movie twice--once with my mom, once with my eight-year-old sister--and then buy a copy of the DVD for myself. Oh, and you can bet that the Twilight DVD will be my cousin's next gift.
The fanbase has understood the danger of having the movies flop. So they won't. I don't think you understand the power of a woman--teenage or adult--obsessed with Twilight. We will do just about anything to make sure these books are a success. It appeals to such a wide audience, too. Thanks to the action, there are a fair amount of guys, and just about every woman on the planet, addicted to them.
Is it the next HP? No. But it's definitely the next success.
unless your referring to an adaptation made for the movie.
Welcome to the world of movies, Twilighters! A world where nothing is ever certain. I have to say that I hope the Twilight series succeeds. Why? Because I love great movies. Perhaps the comparisons to Harry Potter need to stop - it seems like the death-stroke to anything, setting the bar far too high for anything to reach. It's like calling a young golfer the next Tiger Woods or an aspiring film critic the next Cole Abaius. And, let's be honest, there's no way this movie will clear $90 mil it's opening weekend like HP 1 did. Nor is it getting the $125 mil budget that HP 1 did.
And now, some potentially bad news - Summit Entertainment is handling the film. Not that they don't have some gems, but they are a (relatively) young production company that has had some major missteps in recent times. Also, hold off on calling it a major franchise just yet: gigantic book sales don't always translate into blockbuster box office numbers. Rob Hunter's much-hated straight to DVD comment might still come true.
And now, the good news - your director is Catherine Hardwicke. She's from Texas, meaning she is awesome, and if she handles Twilight with the same sensibility as she did with Thirteen, it should be a great film. Unfortunately, she's not tested on the major playing field (let alone anywhere near Harry Potter whose first director was Chris Columbus).
So I may be just another film idiot, but I have doubts about Twilight scoring the type of numbers that guarantee a sequel. Your weakest link is Summit (an ironic name in this case) whose latest high grosser was Step Up 2: The Streets with over $50 mil. Hardly blockbusting numbers. Mr. and Mrs. Smith racked up huge numbers, but it also had the biggest names in acting in Pitt and Jolie.
There is a ton going against the movie, an unvetted director, a lackluster production company without a major studio machine behind it, a screenwriter who has worked in TV but never ventured into film until now, and a fairly unknown cast that won't pull people into the theater on their own.
But, the film still has a decent shot if the fans rally behind it, and if the product is good, then word of mouth will bring new fans to the table.
I feel that's a fair assessment of the situation, but flame on.
Also, if you've never read the book before *cough* Rob Hunter-- then don't you dare talk about how it's going to be a flop. There are countless fansites for Twilght and there is no chance it will be a flop. I HATE reading, Twilight is the first book that i've ever read more then once. (Well actually i read all of the books more then once but...)
Anyway, i just wante to tell Rob Hunter to stop being so God Damn Ignorant!
you do realize that hsm3 will come out before twilight?
that just makes twilight seem all too far away.
i will admit it, im going crazy!
muahaha.
oh and i think we all know by now that there was an error...hes a JUNIOR.
The comparison of HP and Twilight is just crazy. They are 2 totally different storylines. They can not compare. To me one is not better then the other because they are just so different. I love the HP movies and I WILL love ALL the Twilight moives as I love ADORE the books and am competely obsessed with. I love how some like to bash things when they haven't even read the books. Maybe you will like them maybe you won't. But at least know what you are talking about before bashing.
Judging by the attention the movie is getting now, 7 months before the movie is released, I most definitely think Twilight is going to be big. Whether it will knock Harry Potter off the top spot is hard to say, but that's not the point either. A movie's success isn't solely based on whether is "beats" Harry Potter or not; with the position the Harry Potter phenomenon holds, the fight will never be fair, in my opinion.
However, due to it's active fanbase, Twilight most definitely have an advantage compared to other series like Narnia, Eragon and His Dark Materials. The Twilight fans have created the buzz all by themselves, and the promotion of the movie will only make it even bigger.
On that note, MTV did not solely generate the internet buzz. Just look at all the Twilight fansites around - they have thousands of visitors daily and have been reporting news and scored actor interviews since long before MTV came into the picture. MTV simply saw the potential and decided (as one of the first "non-Twilight sites") to jump on the bandwagon and get the fans on their side by providing interviews and clips beyond what the fansites could do. Still, that does not mean that the Twilight fans don't appreciate the Twilight Tuesdays - we most definitely do!
I saw someone mentioning the cast of the movie, and I must say that I support every single of Summit's choices. They seem to have chosen actors who both look like their characters and are determined to make an effort to portray them right. The fact that many of them are fairly unknown is something I only see as positive, and I hope many of them get their breakthrough with this movie.
As for you who said that some girls would be disliking Robert Pattinson - you have obviously not seen the common fan reaction to him the last few months... Of course, not everyone is going to be 100% satisfied with every single cast member, but the drama among the book fans will be long gone by December, and the ones who just see the movie won't have any mental images for comparison anyway...
At this point in time, I don't think Twilight could compare to Harry Potter, simply because the fan base and notoriety is as huge as Harry Potter. Nobody but nobody hasn't heard of Harry Potter. But many still haven't heard about Twilight. Before people start chucking tomatos, I'll say that I think it has the potential to be something similar. After all, its a little early to start making judgements. They only just finished filming this month! I think it's more likely to reach Narnia like fame, which is really high, but not as high as Harry Potter or Lord of the Rings. The disadvantage Twilight has is that because it is so romantic, there's going to be a group of guys (and I suppose some girls) who jut their chin out and claim to be too macho male for that kind of girly stuff. Totally wrong by the way, but that's the nature of the double standard. just as many girls as guys go to see Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings, and devote their lives to the fandom of them, but the ratio is much different when it comes to romance.
Which is too bad, because I'm just as devoted a fan as the rest of you!
oh and one thing, you guys actually did make one little mistake ;]
Edward's a junior, not a senior. his brother and sister, Rosalie and Emmett, are the seniors. Edward and Bella are both juniors in Twilight (seniors in New Moon, and graduate high school in the middle of Eclipse)
That all being said people need to chill out. Not everyone that writes about Twilight has read it 10 times so there may be a mistake here and there, it happens. People are trying to bring attention to Twilight but when fans are rude it only brings attention to them not the project.
This movie is going to be awesome. I really believe with all my heart that Twilight will blow people's minds. Twilight comes out in December. They don't even have a trailer out yet. It is currently April, they are wrapping up filming and haven't even started editing yet. But already people are reserving tickets for this movie at the local theater. People are going to shell out $10 to see a minute long teaser at Speed Racer, then just leave.
Hollywood won't know what hit them.
Guys she already admitted her mistakes in the article pertaining that Edward is a senior even though he is a junior and Stephenie's name. You don't need to keep rubbing it in her face she gets it.
And with the comparisons of Harry Potter and Twilight, of course the plot is nothing a like but as Michelle later mentions, the hype of reading it and caring for these characters are the same. I think in a way it is appropriate to compare the two.
And to Rob Hunter I have to disagree with you. Even if it doesn't make as much money as Harry Potter 1 did, it WILL make just enough to keep going into sequels bcause just like Harry Potter, it has a vast FOREIGN fanbase also, not just in America. The numbers will just be enough that it wont even be necessary for the sequels to go straight to DVD.
So please be more open-minded of the possiblilites but of course none of us are psychic so we don't know how it will be when Dec. 12 comes
I'm proud to say that twilight has lots of different kinds of fans not just teenaged girls and their moms. Theirs twilightmoms and a couple of my friends who are guys (they ARE NOT gay either!) we are all going to see the movie together. The movie is going to be great i have faith in all the actors/actresses. I like the cast, they are all talented people.
but one question did they
change the age of edward
for the movie?
or is it just a typo?
because the edward we all
know and love
is a junior along with bella...
interesting.
then a senior in new moon and eclipse.
if you were worried about people getting angry then get your facts straight.
The time lines are similar. HP 1 came out in 1998 (in the US), a movie was filmed in 2000 and released in 2001. Similar turnaround for Twilight as well.
Should be an interesting experiment to see how well the film does, though. Maybe I'm foolish for throwing my hat into the ring, but I feel confident in saying that it won't reach a first weekend box office that HP 1 had - $90 million.
Personally, I think setting the bar to the Harry Potter standard is pushing it. Harry Potter, no matter how strangely irritating the movies are, is a very huge franchise and does have a loyal fanbase and has since the first book and in turn the first movie.
Now, I'm not saying Twilight as a movie wont be huge, I'm just saying that trying to make it reach that bar is setting a standard I dont think it can reach (no matter how much I want it to).
I honestly believe Twilight will be huge. Roughly half of the student body at my High School reads these books (so thats only about 50 kids -cough-), but thats not even taking in to account the students in the other high school in the district (the huge one). I have met so many people in real life that enjoy these books, and the the number seems to grow every single day - I recently got 2 of my friends and a couple random other students interested just by having the book on me.
This fanbase is enormous, especially on the internet. While, yeah, some fans could sign up on all these forums and whatnot but that doesn't mean they all do. I'm in one place in this fandom when it comes to interaction, and that place reached 3000 members just recently. I dont know if they go on TMs or on the Lexicon forums, all that I know is that at our one little place on the internet, there are 3000 of us. This is a small community by standard.
Many fans also dont parcicipate on the internet. My two best friends (and fellow Twilighters) ask me to get the information for them when it comes to news and videos, because they dont feel like jumping in to the online fandom. Same with most of the fans at school, they dont keep up with the stuff. I'm sure numbers will double the second Trailers start circulating, because the reserved book fans will get curious and new fans will jump on the bandwagon.
I know me and my friends are going to see it at least 3 times in theater (1 or 2 times with large groups or family, even), no matter how bad it could be, because we want this to own some souls and we want to help turn this in to the next huge thing. I'm sure that the rest of the fanbase is just as passionate, if not more so.
With all of that said (I was rambling, my apologies), I'm sure these movies will be HUGE.
Plus, you have the repeat viewers, who are going to see this movie over and over. I'm one of them. The fact is that if a movie is GOOD, and people are interested, the sales will come. Of course, it's impossible to predict how much of a success it'll be. I find it interesting that HP6 comes out two weeks before Twilight. Then we can compare sales and settle the matter once and for all. I'm not sure if it will beat Harry Potter, but if it even comes remotely close, they'll make more. They have an amazing crew working on this who are extremely dedicated and want nothing more than to continue bringing the story to life. Summit's marketing budget is astounding, and the people who are piecing the trailers and featurettes know how to sell it, so people will definitely come to see it. Unless it's a complete disappointment for book readers (which I really don't think it will be), it will be a success.
People think there isn't a foreign fanbase, but there most certainly is.
We non-Americans (I myself am from Canada) are die-hard Twi-Hards just like the rest of you, obsessing over Robert Pattinson's accent in his spider-monkey line.
The only difference is, we go to MTV.com and something comes up instead of the video we want to watch which says that the copyrighting prevents the video to be shown to people outside the US.
I am also a member of a fansite (The Twilight Coven: www.relvira.proboards107.com), on which I've noticed that there were English and Irish fans too.
And I know for sure that people who would never read the books will go see the movie, because:
A- it takes a lot less time than reading the book and
B- their friends who have read it dragged them there.
I personally plan on dragging nearly everyone I know there.
I fully agree with people calling us fans bloodthirsty. We attack every aspect of this movie. It's like, "make this perfect, or you are going DOWN."
Did I let out a few tears when I first saw a picture of Daniel Radcliffe, claiming he could never be perfect enough to play Harry?
No. (Not that I was happy with him, but still.)
I did when I first saw Robert Pattinson.
In fact, I think I went through the five stages of grief with each character casted.
(Denial- They're kidding. She can't be Bella.
Bargaining- I could see him as Carlisle, if he were a blonde. Maybe.
Depression- THEY'RE KILLING MY EDWARD!!!! -sob-
Anger- What!?!?!?! HE DOES NOT LOOK LIKE JASPER!!!!!
And acceptance- You know what? They'll probably all be amazing.)
The thing is, I used to be the Harry Potter kid.
I was the first in line to buy the last book. Well, my friends and I were the first. I'm not sure if I was actually the first or the second to buy it.
And because our time zone is the earliest on the east coast of North America, we may have been the first ones in North America to get it.
But when Eclipse came out two or three (I'm not quite sure which) weeks later, I became the Twilight girl. And I'm not going back.
You know you've got it bad when you know off the top of your head that there are 94 days until Breaking Dawn and 226 until the Twilight movie.
ONE WEEK EXACTLY UNTIL THE HOST!!!!!!!!!
Right. Back on topic.
What I mean to say is that I do think Twilight has what it takes to at least give Harry a good run for his money-in the literal sense. :P
At least in Twilight.
=]
Rob Hunter...*breathes in* Obviously, you don't know anything about this brilliant series. You have overgeneralized and thus degraded Twilight. As I have just said, it is not only girls that are reading this, and not only girls who are willing to come and see this movie - over and over and over and over and over again.
Twilight will be an excellent film because Catherine Hardwick is a wonderful director, she has directed 'Thirteen' and 'Lords of Dogtown' and she does it in a way that people like. Fangirls will go see the movie regardless of the the casting, and many people are feeling good about the casting choices now. Stephenie has been to the set and has talked with Robert Pattinson about Edward and everyone feels that all of the cast is doing a great job.
All of this can be found on the internet.
http://www.twilightguy.com/
P.S. If you haven't read twilight go smack yourself. Then read it. Then smack yourself again for being sp stupid ;-]
big thing. This movie isn't coming out until December 12th and there is already massive
buzz. MTV gave it a day of the week for pete's sake! I have yet to hear anyone say that
twilight is going to flop at the box office. I've heard fans angry about the actors chosen, but
their still going to see the movie. There is no two ways about it, Twilight is going to explode
at the box office.
I do agree that setting the bar too high sets u up for failure but i still think that there is a very good chance that Twilight will surpass that bar!
Anyway...
The reason that Twilighters have a problem with alomst every article that is posted about this series/movie is because there are almost always errors that we notice right away *examples above* no offense haha. I loved your article, taking a very neutral ground on the whole thing is good.
And...
Twilight will be the next big thing to all of us Twilighters and just out of all of us who are going to see the movies and buy the merchandise there will definatly be more movies but it is also crucial to get more fans to the movie! Reading the books and from people describing it to other people makes it sound like a complete chick flick and if they want to get other kinds of people to see it they need to make some really good previews and do some real good advertising! GO TWILIGHT!
Either way, I appreciate websites taking the time to inform the public more about Twilight. And yes, in my opinion, I think Twilight is the next franchise that will boot Harry Potter and the slew of seven (my bad) eight films in the "cash cow" that it is. With so much hype and a dedicated fanbase that Stephenie Meyer's work has, there is no doubt in my mind that this will be huge.
So, in essence, watch out Harry, Ron and Hermione: Edward Cullen is coming to town December 12th. And I'll be waiting, popcorn in hand, paper bag for deep breathing in the other.
And to Rob: First off, have you ever read an Anne Rice novel? If you haven't noticed, she's a....well, to put it gently...a very explicit author. So she wrote a series that included vampirism. So what? I see no relation from The Vampire Lestat(nor any of the others in the series) to Twilight, be it in overall rating to something as important as the plotline.
Secondly, you're only taking into account the older population of Twilight fans. Try adding the 32,000+ fans that make up a group on facebook, let alone countless other places. There's really no accurate way to count just how many people will go see this movie.
but they are juniors in twilight. thankyou twilight lexicon for posting a link to this article!!
According to the recent TIME article, the series has sold 5.3 million copies in the US, 4
million in the past 12 mos alone. x $10? You do the math. Then consider the people who
will see the movie never having read the books.
You can't stay on the best seller list for as long as this series has with only "5,000 fans from
a couple fanboards". There isn't a doubt in my mind this film will be huge.
If certain people want to debate if there are enough numbers, just wait, there is plenty of time before Dec. 12th. The books are addicting and I think many people who like the books will go and see the movie. That in my opinion is why the movie will be big.
And why does Twilight and it's buzz bother people who never read the book and are never going to see the movie?
Really people, does it matter WHERE all the movie buzz started? MTV has done a GREAT job with it and I thank them from the bottom...and the top...and everything in between of my heart. This movie needs help and I think Summit understands this. Why do you think they have allowed so many fans on set, taking pictures and video? Twilight does have a HUGE fan base, but that isn't enough to make a movie top the box office charts. Summit knows full well that a teen romance between and human and vampire will sound quite cheesy to the average movie goers.
The script has added so much and we can all already see this. For example: Edward has is shirt off in the meadow scene, Bella has shape, Edward doesn't fight James, the waterfall? The field trip? The first kiss happening in Bella bed room? all these were added for affect...Summit knows they have to put action and pretty scenery in to make it desirable for the non book fans.
I will support the film because of Stephenie Meyer. If I spend MY $10 to see it and it sucks, I won’t go see it again. But I have to see it for myself and decide if it really lives up to book. I will keep an open mind and understand there will be changes and there will be cast issues and there will be talking (not THAT much though, to say there will be little girls talking through the whole movie is a little too judgmental for me and far from reality), but it all comes down to personal opinion, people are going to like it and people are going to hate it. For now, we should all stand as Twilighters, supporting SM and her work. The movie might not be HER work, but it is based off it, so stop complaining, stop over exaggerating, stop over analyzing, stop nit picking, and just support! Time will only tell!
I read the books and feel in love with them ( mostly Edward but...jk)
and I do belive that it is going to be huge.
MTV came in after the books were already huge.
Oh and...
HAPPY TWILIGHT TUESDAY!!!!
lol.
and in a literary class was introduced to this series. They are a HUGE thing and I know
plenty of university students MALE and female who love these books and eagerly anticipate
the movie.
the book is abut a little boy growing up. Twilight has a much older audience. I'm a big
fan of the series and most of my friends and random people i meet are in college like
myself..o im not a geek...i don't even read that much i don't like comics and such.
Besides that...most of them are guys..why? because guys love vampires and werewolves,
especially the ones that act like modern day heroes with super human abilities.
I'd like too make a few corrections.since clearly the peson who wrote this barely knows
the series. Edward is not a senior, he's a unior at least in he first movie. Bella is in
danger because her bloods appeals to Edward like an alcoholic to whisky...he just loves
her too much to kill her. Also mtv's relationship with twilight began a couple of weeks
ago and there have been fan sites way before they even announced a movie or even a
fourth book for that matter. and last but not least: the fans care about how the do the
movie, the details, characters appearance, cars and even clothing because all of this little
details are one of the many factors that make this book (and all others) absolutely
amazing. So, since they're doing a movie about it... they better do it right.
A lot of people love it right now but it's not even close to December and already us Twighters are the biggest buzz on the internet!
one month ago it was just me from my school who loved and read the books, NOW about 45 of my friends are just as obsessed as I am! And thats just my little school! Wait after eight more months until the movie comes out!
I hadn't heard of anyone (besides myself, I heard of it by accident, I think...) who I knew that wanted to see Juno or had planned to, but it did get surprisingly huge in theatres and now it's very popular.
I say this because even though the movies may not be exactly spot-on with the books (adaptation) they could still "suffer" from a nearly unknown cast and more never-heard-ofs on the production team, so I believe Twilight will do quite well in theatres.
I also am a HP fan and think, sorry, that yeah, HP is its own world, NOTHING can ever be HP again.
However, in me, Twilight has become a major staple in my book collection, with busted bindings.
If nothing else we still have the books, which are very very awesome, we win.
...
And I know I'm only one person, but I'll go see Twilight 3 times with 3 different groups of people...
Have faith! :D
As for if Twilight is going to be the next Harry Potter, I think that it has potential. I only became a Twilight fan in January (my friend got me the book for Christmas) but I had no idea what it was before that. Since then, I have introduced the series to 13 of my friends/family/coworkers and they've all loved them and suggested them to people they know. And nobody that I have met who reads the books is just a casual reader. They are all "involved" with the book. It may not be as big as Harry Potter, but only because it's main fanbase is female teenagers (Yes, I know the fan base is includes others (I'm 23), but the book is marketed toward teenage girls). From what I can tell from stalking the internet for news, the directors and producers are trying to make the movie so that it appeals to males as well. If they make the trailers appeal to males (show the action sequences and downplay the romance) they will probably have a better turn-out (the girls are already addicted to it, so they don't need a trailer to attract us). While I hope that the sequels are shown in theaters because I love the books and as far as I can tell they are doing very well on the movie, I do not have high hopes of this series being as big as Harry Potter or Star Wars was just because of who the target audience is.
thank you so much to taking the time to write an article about our favorite book. the hp comparisons to me sort of jinks it. hp is beyond huge and i dont think that twilight can compare to it. but i love reading anything pertaining to twilight so thanks!
now to address some of the comments...
-hp 1 had a budget of 125 million dollars and i believe twilight has a budget of 30 million, so on that scale i think twilight will easily make a great profit for summit, therefore guaranteeing a sequel. we don't have to worry about it making an astronomical amount of money, though i don't doubt it will come close to it.
-unlike golden compass, erogon, and narnia, i think twilight's fanbase is vastly stronger and one thing it has going for it is that its a current and modern story.
-and yes, as of now mtv is really the only outlet twilight is being publicised, but dec 12 is SEVEN months away. do you really think there should be paid advertisements up (billboards, internet ads, tv ads, etc.)? no, these usually don't go up for at least a few more months and we expect a trailer within a week! i'd like to see how much buzz golden compass, erogon, and narnia had going for them a year before their release... just go to the twilightlexicon archives to see how many articles have already been written about the movie...
-and last of all (Rob) please refrain from making comments on something you obviously know nothing about! i'm not saying you have to be a fan in order to comment and such but at least read the book before you compare to anne rice; the only thing these two have in common is that they have the word "vampire" in them!
I don't think you need reminded of the fact that Edward is indeed a Junior, because tons of people have already got there before me.
If you didn't have the intention of drawing us, the "wrath" to your website, atleast spell the authors name right, I mean... c'mon.
Hm, Twilight is amazing. That is all.
I guess we shall see so far so good!!
Twilight has the potential to make it HUGE.
If the fanbase keeps growing and people are willing to accept the movies for what they are (ADAPTIONS people, adaptions), there is no doubt in my mind that Twilight will make it big.
Oh and in response to something you said:
"You have the already enormous internet buzz, which seems to have been solely generated by MTV’s movie blog and has stretched to include mention on many of the biggest movie blogs out there."
The Twilight fandom is HUGE. I don't think you've realized this. MTV is just a small part of the picture. True, it keeps us connected to what is going on in the films but, there are numerous other communities on the internet who have been twilight crazed lonnnng before MTV came along. You could say they just jumped on the bandwagon. Livejournal has a giant Twilight fanbase with MANY communities solely based on the relationship of Edward and Bella. There is:
twilightlexicon.com
hisgoldeneyes.com
crepusculo-es.com (a spanish twilight website)
edwardandbella.net
twilighters.org
twilightseriestheories.com
bellaandedward.com
Just to name a few.
Secondly, I just wanted to say that I absolutely love TWILIGHT! I have read the series 5 times (working on my 6th) and I will definitely be standing in line for hours to see the movie. I'm not a big reader. In fact, I've never finished a whole book until I started reading the Twilight series. And for once I have actually found a book that I can't put down.
And Finally, I know Twilight will be big! I have got tons of my friends hooked on the series and we all plan to go see the movie several times. It may not be as big as HP, SW or LOTR but who cares?? It's still a great book anyway!!! And it's not just teenage girls who have read it (rob). I know tons of guys, moms, dads, teachers, and adults who have read this book. I don't know a single person who has actually read the whole series who doesn't like it. So (rob) read the book before you decide to bash on it.
And thanks Michelle for writing this!
As for the comment about the people hating the movie version, well, nothing can match the varying pictures in everyone's heads. The Golden Compass, Narnia, and Eragon all had severe problems when they began to adapt them, causing the lack of huge revenues. The golden compass had christians protesting en masse, the Narnia books were famous but considered by most to be "children's" books, and shouldn't have been expected to take off any more than movie adaptations of books like "Because of Winn-Dixie" and "The spiderwick chronicles". Eragon didn't follow the story line of the book at all, and got low reviews. Twilight has a large fanbase, spanning gender and age, and a strong story.
I'd like to say this. NOTHING WILL EVER BE ANOTHER HARRY POTTER. AND NOTHING WILL EVER BE ANOTHER TWILIGHT. They are different, good in different ways. Thank you, Twilight Lexicon!
http://www.mtv.com/overdrive/?id=1585900&vi...
That's 1,026,224 views for a 4 minute 16 second behind the scenes clip....and the growing fan base can't get enough.
"WELCOME TO TWILIGHT!!!"
My biggest problem is everyone is looking for the next harry potter and they are pinning this to be it. My thing is don't pin anything like that. No one expected Harry Potter to be as big as it got.
But I do totally agree with you that it's one of those things that we can't predict at this point. Will it do well? That's really in the fans hands at this point.
Also, I'm sure I'm not the only one saying this but Edward isn't a senior. He's a junior like Bella. But hey! that was the only mistake and I have to say, you did well!
Just wanted to ask. . . if you post an article about Twilight or set up a site about Twilight, how many hits do you get in a 24hr period?
Twilightguy states in his personal blog (kalebnation.com/blog) entry dated April 17, " I have received not hundreds, but THOUSANDS of visitors in less than 24 hours. . ." Due to his shock, he continues to explain, "Every time I click Refresh on my stats (about every minute or so), I have received another 50-80 visitors."
**Nice aritcle by the way!**
Seriously, there is no competition; Twilight wins. Hands down. Period.
I cant wait!!!! its gonna b the bom!!!!
You've just missed the point that is so frequently overlooked.....this appeals to women of ALL ages.
Unless your definition of "young women" includes women in their 40s, 50s and 60s!
In which case I thank you--for I am 52 *argghhh* and like to think I am still "young."
But your article was great!
My point is, I think that such strong passion about anything, especially a book, is great! Of course, there are those who will immediately pounce on any comment with even a slightly negative slant and dismiss you and your opinion, without any rational discussion, but for the most part, discussing something with a true fan is probably the best way to learn about it.
On another note, I'm also a big fan of HP, but it doesn't have the relationship-passion that Twilight does, which is ok, because they're different stories, but both great in their own ways. I really don't even think it's fair to compare them.
T is for Tingles!!! That's good enough for me!!!
-Arra Cullen
that I feel like I have betrayed Potter! I read the first 3 books in 3 days! I am so excited for
the movie, I CANNOT see ANYONE other than Robert Pattinson playing Edward (he will be
perfection, wait and see), and while I think the screenplay adaptation will be different from
the book, it will work and work well. That's why they call it an ADAPTATION. I don't know if
it will outshine Harry Potter but these two franchises are about to embark on a serious
competition.
opinions and u can see how dedicated Twilight fans r wen they correct articles ^.^
i just hate that there's such a BIG hype around the movie! well its good cuz more people
(that arent "Twilighters") wuld take notice and wuld become curious abt all the hype and
wuld go check out the movie themselves. But the bad thing is if it doesnt live up to the
hype/ expectations, it wuld just be another flop of a book-turn-movie =[ ...not that i
think it wuld cuz i myself is such a big fan and im DYING for the movie to come out and
hoping it does really really well in the boxoffice! ^-^ ...
I rather not hve this big buzz around the movie so wen it comes out, its like BAM! a
surprise in the box office and to people beating out all those great movies such as HP
We all saw it happen wid Spider-Man 3, EVERYONE was talking abt it saying it'll be the
best and stuff but it didnt reach their expectations at all ...i dont want that to happen wid
Twilight =[ ... but im 100% shure that it definitely wuldnt happen wid Twilight (thats just
cuz im very optimistic and very confidence wid all those TWILIGHTERS out
there...especially the TwilightMOMS whos planning on seeing it like 5 times =D )
i agree abt the MTV comment saying that all this buzz is becuz of the mtvblog... no! it
already had a big buzz b4, mtv just took notice
we ALL rote comments abt lots of different things that we forgot abt wat the article ask
us readers...
1) Is Twilight really the next big thing that the buzz is attempting to point to?
....ahhh YES!
2) Will it live up to the hype?
...definitely [very hopeful]
and to this ROB HUNTER dude well u did make ur point but consider other countries
around the world too, Twilight is big world-wide =)
3) Is there really anything that can carry the Potter torch, or is the mere attempt to label
something as the next big thing what damns it?
... i dont noe and i dont really care i just want to see the movie! like i said b4 i dont like
comparing anything wid Twilight i think its stupid and it just gets people angry =|
4) And finally, will Twilight actually make enough of an impact for the series to get off
the ground?
... YES! YES! YES! OF COURSE!
i cant wait for the movie! they expect us to wait till December, we'll go crazy!
im one of those people that will definitely watch the movie more than once =P
I TOTALLY agree with faith... i'm actually a filipina... who is from the other side of the world, and i'm confident and proud to say that there had already been big buzzes about twilight in here b4 the mtv blog. Actually the twilight series is more known than that blog in our place.... another is that we have numerous amount of fan bases in our country.
and yes!!! i hope they wouldn't post too much about twilight (though i'm a die-hard twilighter myself) so that the public would be suprised about the movie and for them to not live up with their expectations... since everytime the buzzes take of,, it just disappoints most of the audience.
Is Twilight really the next big thing that the buzz is attempting to point to?
UHMM,, DUH!
Will it live up to the hype?
I HOPE SO
Is there really anything that can carry the Potter torch, or is the mere attempt to label something as the next big thing what damns it?
I'LL SAY I DN'T KNW TO THE 1ST AND YES TO THE SECOND (being open minded here)
And finally, will Twilight actually make enough of an impact for the series to get off the ground?
HELL YEAH!!
Rob Hunter: u don't knw what ur missing
What say you my fellow obsessies?
Edward is a Junior. Bella is never safe form his thirst.
MTV is really smart they are the only ones really taking advantage of this.
Someone sounds jealous.
It already carries the TWILIGHT torch.
I'll make sure all of my friends see it with me several times in the theaers!
Now this will probably be a waste of time and my words will be twisted again into things I never said, but I’d like to make a couple quick points. Miss Vicious and a few other bad apples aside, most of you Twilight fans who’ve commented here seem to be intelligent, knowledgeable, and incredibly passionate about The Twilight Saga. That’s cool… I myself am a complete nerd for Dean Koontz’ Odd Thomas books and the TV shows Battlestar Galactica and Arrested Development, so I get it. You’re also, and I think you’d agree here, more than a little nitpicky and obsessed.
Which is why I’m a bit surprised and disappointed that so many of you started bashing me for things I never said. Yes, I called the series “Anne Rice-lite†which was meant only as shorthand for “vampire drama with teens and without the sexâ€, but admit it, that’s an accurate statement, and not even close to a slam against the books (a generalization maybe, but not a slam). That’s the only reference I make to the book series, yet I was immediately bashed for criticizing them. I was also given shit for trashing the movie itself… again, read my comments, I didn’t say a word about the quality of the upcoming movie. I was only giving my opinion on its box-office chances. Yes, my opinion differs from those of the other hundred commenters, but this is a blog… dissenting opinions are the lifeblood of the blogosphere.
Amanda was “pissed off†at me, and said that if I didn’t read the books I shouldn’t even be commenting here… Alex Medland calls me “God Damn Ignorant†for the same crime… Rhi-rhi says if I haven’t read the books I “should just shut upâ€â€¦ Well guess what girls, this is a movie site. And it’s a free goddamn country.
I do admit that I underestimated terribly the girth of the Twilight online fanbase. Massively underestimated. But I stand by my original comments that most of that fanbase is made of young girls. Yes, there are some older girls, and yes there are some brothers and boyfriends (who so aren’t gay!), but the vast majority are young girls. I also still believe the success of the movie depends on more than just huge internet buzz. (Snakes on a Plane anyone?) I agree with Cole however that the movie has a chance if the fans really rally behind it, and like I said previously (in the comments nobody really read), I hope you get the best and most successful movie possible.
Except you Miss Vicious… you can blow it out your anal-retentive ass.
In regards to Harry Potter, I am personally quite proud to tell everyone Iknow that Eclipse was the book that knocked HP 7 off the #1 spot!! I do think as an exercise in pop culture, there are similarities. As to whether or not Twilight will be the next big frnachise, I don't know. Part of me hopes it doesn't, just because it will get all commercialized!
All I know is Twilight and my obsession with it has been SO MUCH FUN!! I am a 26 year old mom of 2, a college grad, and a Twilight Mom. I just feel bad for people who didn't get the same thing out of it that I did. It has been incredible!
Oh, and last I heard, from Stephenie's Germany tour, she still has not signed over the rights for any more movies. (Which, personally, I think is a smart move!)
I, and everyone I know, will be seeing Twilight the movie this winter! WOO HOO!!
(Thanks TwilightMOMS for the link!)
I myself think it's going to be mediocre, but I'm still going to see it. A lot of the emotion that makes the book so amazing is in Bella's thoughts, and it's hard to portray those on film. And from what I've seen of released footage, it appears as though they're adding action sequences that weren't in the book to 'spice things up' which disappoints me and many others.
The fact of the matter is, you just can't make a movie as good as the book.
Especially one with a rabid fan base who won't be pleased no matter what happens.
The movie is going to rock! Plain and simple. I totally agree that it'll be sold out for weeks (I plan on helping with that!) and it's stupid to think otherwise. Even if the movie doesn't meet everyone's expectations, which it obviously won't (seeing as how we all view it a bit differently), it'll still be something all of us fans are going to want to experience. And that right there is enough to put the movie in at number one. This fan base is amazing! And I love being a part of it, even if it does get a bit heated at times!
P.S. When Twilight wins a grammy you will be EATING all of the stuff we have said! EATING IT!
That is all.
Give up now. Because you are SO not wining this battle.
GO TWILIGHT!!!!! I love all my fellow fans *smile* *smile*
carrying on...
Now I thought that the article was great! Though Edward is a junior not a senior and some other ones people have already called youi on,but other that you did a very well done article!
I stick with what I said....you are ignorant. But this is probably getting out of hand. I now realize the EXTREME amount of immaturity that goes into most of the comments. It's stupid. But I still love twilight with all my heart and soul.
PS. To everyone who LIKES the book...did u hear there will be a mascarade thing at Chapters on August 1st at Midnight u can only get the book at midnight if you atted the mascarade and dress up.....in what?.....i don't know yet ...but it'll be fun.
GO TWILIGHT!!!!
P.S.i have read the series more than 8 times!!!!
Stephenie Meyer can write a good book alright!!!!
One of The Many Twilighters,
Claire
By the by, Edward is a junior in high school, Stephenie is spelled with an E and the new Twilight movie should be definitely interesting.
we are completly oobssesseedddd!!!!!! We wish he looked better in the movie but oh well. We think once you know the charecter of edward it doesnt matter what he looks like. :D
We have a count down till the movie! 102 days till the movie!!!!!!! We can't wait!!!! We are gonna go to the midnight openingg!(i hope)We think Alice looks perfect for her part! So does Jasper and Emmettt:)
We think Kristen will do a good job as Bella. And Robert will do goodd tooooo:)
WE LOVEEE TWILIGHTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Book is pefect I hope movie will be half good as book.
I cant wait to watch movie . I love twilight .
Women writers are better then mens .
Only good men writer is Dan Brown.
I love twiLight I love all 3 books.
1..breaking dawn is already out (and if you haven't read it already ur not a true twilight fan), 2..there is a fifth book, Midnight Sun and stephenie meyer has posted a draft of it on her website (reason: somone else leaked the book on the internet and no all her beloved fans are illegally reading it. To read this wonderful piece safely and legally go to http://www.stepheniemeyer.com/midnightsun.html), 3..the twilight movie is coming out in november now, not december (reason: harry potter and twilight were scheduled to come out in the same month and they decided it would be better to have them at different times so twilight moved up to nov. and HP moved back to july), 4.. both twilight and harry potter are amazing stories (and personally i dont think it's wrong to love both)
Nous aussi on attend se film avec impatience sa a l'air super très très bien.
they have selected a very good cullen family since they each portray their own unique beauty but are not rele the best looking people. well i mean gosh are they ever good looking but they are very unique in their own way. Kristin is the PERFECT bella and robert is the PERFECT edward. i personally wish everything was real in twilight. the movie will be amazing if you are a true twilight fan that is. if your a true twilight fan you basically hypervenalate at every thing about twilight. and , you know if your a true fan if ANYTHING twilight amazes you . no matter if the budget for the movie was 5$, as long as it was twilight, you should love it.
i read all the books and theyre amazing.
I LOVE EDWARDD CULLEN (((((((LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL)))))))
as good as the books.