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But I think we'll see that although this movie will make ridiculous gobs of money, it won't get to the same degree as The Dark Knight. Why? Multiple viewings.
I really didn't like Transformers. I also don't see why people can differentiate between the two. They both suck... Giant robots fighting.
Just kidding, I love you, and all that happy-crappy.
Watch for week 2. I'm guessing a 60% plummet.
How is this so hard to understand why this was a hit? the first movie was awesome, so regardless of what anyone says people want to experience it for them selves to make their own decision. Dont give yourself so much credit as to say that since you and everyone else hated it we should watch the Proposal this weekend, fuck that!
Its a franchise with a good 1st movie, and a pretty bad second installment, the hype alone makes it something that people want to watch. Get that through your head, its not that hard to figure out. Save your self the time and stop writing. If everyone else is talking about ROTF then you dont wanna be the dumbass who says "Nah, i skipped that one"
Critics might say that this is a bad movie, but critics are also not your average viewer. What do you expect from a movie about robots? The elements of the movie that are drawing people are the Robots. This is where Michael Bay is a genius. Give as much as possible, add amazing US Military shots and actions, and finish it off with hot actors and you have a movie that allows the viewer to escape every day life. Especially this weekend when every TV show was about Michael Jackson...
You would expect the thing to be a success, just on the basis of 'shiney things go boom!' alone. But some kind of massive record-breaker? God no. I guess it means that people aren't leaving the theater and texting friends 'TF2 Sucks'.
Either that or the draw of the spectacle is just making people ignore what everyone is saying.
The lack of repeat viewings should kill this movie off pretty quick though I would guess. And hope.
I hated the first Transformer movie (as well as the 3 Star Wars, and 2 Matrix movies) and read the bad reviews for this one and went to see it braced for impact. I just couldn't miss it though. You know its going to be bad and have accepted that but all you want is the slightest bit of what you loved before. Just a heartbeat. It's hope. It's like your favorite underdog sports fan trying to win the world series. It's like going to see a loved one in a coma just praying for a twitch of their finger...Something...
The critics are basically too old to have been a Transformer junkie when they were kids.
If you weren't a Transfomer fan, most males just wants to see giant robots fight and when the transform into other cool things its a bonus.
Well, for this movie I actually liked it (and I'm quite critical). I discarded the plot. Megan Fox didn't have many lines...bonus. I couldn't stand Jar Jar Binks but the two jive talking robots didn't bother me and when one of them punched Devastator in the mouth, that was really cool. Having the constructicons was cool. I really liked the toy Jetstream when I was a kid and he was in the movie. He had a cool part also.
Overall my impression was that it had more good than bad but there is just so much potential to be more than what it was.
And then they see it... and then they say they hate it regardless of what they've found out... Just my opinion.
And also, out of curiosity, I ask this question: if you talked about how horrible it is and then find out that you actually liked it, would you admit that you were really wrong?
And, come on "self-fulfilling prophecy" isn't just a term. You DO that.
And then they see it... and then they say they hate it regardless of what they've found out... Just my opinion.
And also, out of curiosity: if you talked about how horrible it is and then find out that you actually liked it, would you admit that you were really wrong?
And, come on "self-fulfilling prophecy" isn't just a term. You DO that.
1) If you have watched it, quit your whining, because you're part of the $200 million.
2) If you haven't watched it, stop believing what critics have been saying, go watch the movie, and stop being such a lemming.
I was never going to watch Transformers because i wasn't ever really interesed in it, but everyone's bitching makes me want to go out and spend my 10 bucks to see it...
Uh, yeah it does. Since when does a Rotten Tomatoes percentage have anything to do with a movie's box office? All it means is people don't give a shit about what critics think, and no one should because movies are different for everyone. Come on, you're a journalist, be better at your job.
Consider this free advice - when reviewing a movie - dont watch it from your own angle and taste - watch it from the angle of the rest of America - including all those in middle America who you cannot understand - then you might start to to get it right...
If you noticed Transformers has a 68% by the community at Rotten Tomatoes and made $200 million in five days. The "critics" gave it a 22% and told us not to go, the community gave it a 68%, and the general public gave it an overwhelming THUMBS UP to the tun of $200 million. That is $200 million in five days in case you missed that number.
I went to go see Transformers on Saturday afternoon because I had heard from an overwhelming amount of people that the movie was good. I bought my tickets online four hours early and I was glad I did because every single time slot sold out by the time I got there. I watched the movie and I enjoyed the movie. Walking out of the theater the only thing I could hear is positive response to the movie. I plan on going to see this movie again next week.
Every negative review and idiotic piece like this I read I mark it down and make sure to tell five people I don't normally speak to that Transformers was an amazing movie. Idiots like yourself think your opinion is more valuable than someone else's when it isn't, not even close. If only the "critics" realized that the only people reading what they have to say are other critics maybe they would close up shop and get a real job. People aren't goign to see Transformers to see how "bad" it is, people aren't going to see Transformers to see Megan Fox or Sheila, and people aren't going to see Transformers to see humongous explosions. Hundreds of thousands of people are going to see Transformers because it is a good movie. I don't know how to make it more clear than how crystal clear it already is that critics and people like you are absolutely 100% a worthless waste of time.
Your review is written as if because critics gave it a bad review and it still did well then it must mean the world is turning upside down.
This entire article was basically about how utterly confused you are that it still did well even though critics hated it.
In your face critics, waste of human gray matter.
Then you have to consider that sometimes people just want a movie that's fun to watch. You don't really have to think about Transformers 2, the more you think about it, the less you like it. None of the movies you compared it to do that. Terminator 4 doesn't bring back nostalgia like transformers does. It does not have mindless action like Transformers does.
I'm not saying T2 was a good movie. Far from it. But it was mindless fun, from start to end. It didn't take itself too seriously. It didn't slow down. Not many movies do that.
Just throwing in my two cents.
Although I could be wrong on this it would be interesting to see how much money was spent on advertising this movie.
However, I felt if i was about to bash it I needed to read the entire thing.
Something about this article really annoyed the hell out of me. Hey instead of watching any movies lets just read the reviews and we will see why its not worth it.
Its called watching something exciting and over the top and enjoying it and letting the little stuff slide.
I have a friend who is a film critic type and has judged movies to be good or bad based on the title and cover!!! Actually I should say judged them to be on a scale of bad or horrible.
People see movies like Transformers because they're epic in scope, there's incredibly awesome fight scenes, and as much as there is a lack of story, they're extremely entertaining to watch. I heard more people scream "OOOHH!!!!" during Transformers 2 than any of the above mentioned movies, by a long shot. And let's face it, critics like to bash Michael Bay movies, just for being what they are; extremely action packed and explosive. So the fuck what? Wanna know why his movies make so much? Because people actually DO like to see them. So quit your whining.
Uh, what? You throw away $10 because you can't make lemonade from lemons? That's some nerve and arrogance. My biggest concern is that these people have friends to bring to the theater. Careful friends, you may not meet Mr. Perfect's expectations, and we've already seen how expendable things like that can be.
P.S. This includes those who fall asleep during movies. How boring and embarrassing of a friend you must be to manage to lose focus and interest that easily. Take some Adderall kids.
Author: "So I guess that’s all that people want to see in a movie, then, eh? Explosions and fights? But other movies have explosions and fights, too, and haven’t done the kind of business this movie has done."
Is the author retarded? Like its that simple, and also it seems as if he just insulted people for enjoying a good action flick.
Wow I don't know why I am getting so worked up over this article but my god it totally annoyed the hell out of me.
We'll see how big the drop off is next weekend, but it probably won't be as large as most critics think. I'm guessing it'll split by half and continue to do well overseas.
But I do love that this film has brought up the giant debate again from buffs who refuse to give credence to the talent of filmmaking that resonates with giant audiences. Sure, movies like Up have proved that you don't have to aim for the middle to hit the middle always, but most of the time you do. And Bay is a master (at this point) at aiming right for the middle, balancing out a simple story with not-good acting and a ton of visual candy. That's success.
John, you're great - but even while hating this film, I'm sure you can see why a ton of people liked it (or at least why that many people paid money for it). I'm sure you aren't equally baffled when a movie like Synecdoche NY comes out and DOESN'T make $200 million on opening week, right?
I think about 5 lines of that entire article were worth while to the minutes i just wasted.
In any case, as you yourself stated, "“of course, the movie’s stupid, what did you expect?”" are you expecting fucking Shakespearean prose? Some film school jockie who does everything a film critic such as yourself or Rogert Ebert masturbates to? You got a summer blockbuster. Deal with it.
I will say one thing about this movie is that there are, admittedly a lot of continuity holes. Something that just even doing a basic read-through of the script could have fixed, but for all the general fuckery moments, the robot action was simply amazing. Face it: guys like robots and explosions. Fuck all else. Fuck cohesiveness, fuck dialogue, fuck making sense. If there are robots and explosions, IT WILL SELL.
Jesus christ stop being a whiner.
Which is apparently from Middle America? I mean really? If anything you have beef with the people living and working in L.A. who rolled out this movie you so loathed. Why blame those who watch and not those who produced? (oh and I'm not from "Middle America")
And you can't deny that the robots in the movie are pretty.
I paid 7 bucks to watch giant robots and explosions I go more than my monies worth. Was the script awful? Yes. Was the acting atrocious? Yes. Soundwave? Ravage? Frenzy? Totally worth 7 bucks.
Perhaps because many of us don't look to movie critics to tell us if WE will enjoy the film.
Quite simply, I enjoy when an intelligent person can write a detailed critique of a film/book/opera/whatever and I respect their ability to was eloquently about the nuances of their like/dislike... but I am absolutely baffled when said person comes back with, "I WROTE that it was a bad movie/book/opera/whatever, so WHY IS IT SO POPULAR!"
I haven't seen Transformers 2 yet, but I will eventually, and I will probably be entertained no matter what its ranking might be on Rotten Tomatoes.
Though once you take the humans out (and get a better writer), Transformers could be even better. Explosions have to stay.
Case in point here is a movie review/critic website, the owner is so self-absorbed he fails to see the forest for the trees. Every movie needs to be oscar worthy or it is just not worth making.... in their eyes. There was a time when entertainment just had to be entertaining.
The proof is in the pudding though, 200 million dollars worth of people were entertained and those with common sense got what they paid for.
I suspect that the Box Office on this will come to a crashing halt any day now.
If you cant put things in perspective and have a "sliding scale" in regards to what entertainment is, then you are in for a rude awakening with life my friend.
If you don't like giant robots blowing each other up then what would possess you to even walk into the theater? Did you expect an oscar?
1) It needs to be entertaining.
I'll say it one more time... if you expected anything more then explosions and giant robots, then you need to start with "the man in the mirror"... RIP Jacko.
Seriously though, when will people realize that advertising trumps Rotten Tomato ratings anyday?
The average teenager/person in their twenties see's an advertisement after his/her day at work or school for Megan Fox and T-Rex Shyla making out to Robots fighting. It's a great makeout movie, fantastic date movie, awesome free time killer movie..
When will you finally realize that just because a movie sucks, doesn't mean it won't sell well. Michael Bay is notorious for this. All you need to succeed in America is the right actor/actresses, the right CG, and the right Pepsi endorsement.
"sighs" you'll realize this one day
They are completely different movies.
Transformers requires you to suspend reality to allow for "alien" "robots" to exist in the first place.
Indiana Jones was trying to convince us that if you get into a lead fridge you could survive a nuclear blast... which is laughable at best!
On top of that... your critique of the movie is over something that COULD happen... If you had a talking robot from outer space, why couldnt it be a little hood?? :) I dont see the problem here.
If youre going to blast the movie, at least do it on the real grounds. Like:
1) it rips off other movies like Armageddon with meteors tearing up cities, Terminator 2 with robots forming from something that looks liquid, Matrix with 'I Love You' bringing someone back to life, Like Indiana Jones in its epic quest for ancient artifacts, Like Terminator mini series with the hot fembot
2) the disappearing reappearing magic energy crystal... That is a suspension of logic beyond the plot.
Beyond that, the movie was funny, and can be summarized in appreciation by simply saying: "robot kung fu".
You make a movie where robots kick robots asses, go on an epic quest to save the world, and hit at the core of 20-30's nostalgic heart; and we will pay you 200 million as well.
So stop complaining.
Must I spell it for you? Of COURSE it's ridiculous - which is exactly what people expect. They want to turn their minds off, laugh, and be entertained. It's the second one, so people knew going what they were getting. All of them, including your 5 readers, are TIRED of bad news and want to escape for a couple hours - transformers allows that: leftie Moore's Watchmen (with its CGI Kennedy and bad Nixon and Kissinger ripoffs) didn't.
So many people in this country - in the entertainment industry especially - just don't get it. You all really are living in an alternate reality of your own making. Transformers paints an accurate picture of the how the modern American conservative thinks. You guys in liberal-land have this warped picture in your head of some old white guy in a 1970's dress suit thumping a bible and who never gets laid.
I saw this in a racially mixed theater with a lot of young people who thought the sex jokes and the jive talking robots were hilarious, and they literally applauded at the end of the film for it's pro-American military themes.
You guys... you just don't get it.
Personally i like both complex story lines AND giant robots fighting, but for different and obvious reasons. Theres a time and place for both types of movies. When transformers 2 came out i was in a bad mood and just wanted to see some robots beat the shit out of each other...so i enjoyed it.
-Brandon
Critics = A$$holes
The problem with critics is that they don't know HOW to go to the movies. They go to all movies expecting the same thing. An amazing emotional epic that will change their perception of the world and teach them something about life.
This is WRONG. You do not go into every movie expecting the same thing. If you go to an action movie you go in expecting bullets, explotions and all around testosterone-filled awesomeness. If you go into a comedy, you go in expecting stupidity, bad yet funny jokes and absurd characters. This goes on and on for each type of movie. You don't expect life changing teaching when you go to watch a horror movie.
The day critics understand that Transformers is not about an incredibly deep storyline, drama and oscar-worthy characters is the day Transformers will get great reviews. This is a movie about out-of-this-planet level war, huge explosions, incredible visual effects and most important of all: GIGANTIC FRIGGING ROBOTS BEATING THE CRAP OUT OF EACH OTHER. Both Transformers movies accomplish everything they're supposed to accomplish and everything that any half-smart movie goer should expect. It's about seeing your childhood heroes do battle, the good guys finding a way to win thru ridiculous odds and one of the hottest chicks in movies right now doesn't hurt either.
Needless to say, i thoroughly enjoyed this movie and will certainly watch it again before it leaves theaters. I recommend it to anyone who knows how to go to the movies. Critics will talk all the crap they want, and i'll keep laughing at their obvious lack of movie-enjoying abilities.
To Michael Bay: Thanks for making Transformers exactly what it's supposed to be. I don't think anyone could have done it better. I'm eagerly awaiting a third one... and a fourth one... and as many as you can manage to make!! The movies are obviously making money, so screw the critics, they don't know crap!!!!
Anyway, not every successful movie has to be smart, funny or even well-written. Sometimes mindless, stupid fun is the way to go. Especially in these days.
n any case, I think the special effects were mind-blowing and second to none. I also think the writers should be shot in the foot.
Look at the world around us, the war, the economy, job situations and on and on. Thats why this is making so much money. We need to escape into a world that is so ridiculous we don't have to think, just sit back and enjoy something for 2 hours.
People don't go to movies because a bunch of snooty critics say something is great, they go because they want to laugh, they want to think or they want to escape. Simple.
Critics are ignoring what made Transformers popular to start with. It's about robots fighting robots, and people aligning with the good robots. Babes and laughs put it over the top if you get the first two. As my brother complained, there was more plot in the first movie than every Transformers episode combined. He'll like the second movie more than the first.
Indy4 was overrated by critics for the same reason. Indy4 about about the quest, Indy is old school, so the quest should never involve aliens.
The action, humour, sound, pace all work for me. And oh 'robots' fighting with this much finesse, style and passion is thrilling to watch.
When I was a kid, I used to take my Star Wars figures and show no mercy towards my older brother's original GI Joe figures; I used to take large rocks and crush my Matchbox cars; I used to build model tanks and then melt them with a magnifying glass (because that's how aliens do it, natch..).
Why did Transformers 2 do so well at the box office? Because it's giant robots blowing shit up, that's why! It's taps into some sort of primal, gutteral reaction that every friggin kid in America has done for ages.
We're Americans. And we like to blow shit up, and watch shit getting blown up.
See also, Iraq...
Since Michael Bay directed this, i only expect the first. Solely the first.
Have you actually seen the film? Don't you have to join the legions of 'Middle Americans' and see the film to actually form an opinion? I am from the UK and I saw the film the other night. Did I enjoy it? Yes. Is it a masterpiece? Not even close. Did I expect it to have a Tarantino script and Spielberg story telling? No. Did I suspend my disbelief and have a fun 2 1/2 hours with some friends and a bucket of extortionatly priced coke? HELL YES! Get a grip. Regardless of a films content, it's popularity is defined by the amount of people who see it (of course, popular doesn't mean quality). Just get used to the fact that films like this are going to be a hit, and it doesn't mean that those of us who go and see them are stupid - just easily entertained.