DISQUS

Film School Rejects: Should Citizen Kane Be Required Viewing for Kids?

  • TL_is_now_TJL · 10 months ago
    Citizen Kane should be required viewing for any film student. I watched it a bunch of times in various film classes in college and I love it.
    I do think the story has some legitimate applications in the regular classroom, but I belong to some message boards where high school aged kids have complained about being forced to watch it.
    "It's soooooo boring" was the most popular assessment of Kane.
    Ah kids these days with thier MP3s and Twitter thingies.
  • jack2jack · 10 months ago
    It is required as a film student. Any instructor worth his/her weight is showing it in class. I saw it in Intro to Film and Great Directors. Hell, we even had ten questions on the final just on CK Problem is, parents have their kids on this instant praise and gratification trail. So what do you expect for minds desensitized by violence at a tender age?
  • Adam_Sweeney · 10 months ago
    I agree with Jackie. We watched it as the final film in my Film Studies course and had to examine why people prop it up so high.
  • Rich Drees · 10 months ago
    It's not just a case of teaching kids that KANE is a great film, its teaching them why it is a landmark cinema. They should watch it twice, the second time with Ebert's fantastic DVD commentary track.

    The real problem is that kids today are not being taught proper critical thinking skills, a legacy of Bush's failed "No Child Left Behind" policies which only taught rote memorization. High schoolers should be taught how to watch films, not just look at them.
  • jack2jack · 10 months ago
    It only took them 7 years to figure out that the policy does not work. No one has the balls to demand it be dropped. Kids lack reading, writing and comprehension skills. Basics that should have been taught in elementary school show up across the board in middle and high school.
  • Cole_Abaius · 10 months ago
    No.
  • Matthias Galvin · 10 months ago
    I disagree, I think it should be required viewing for children not because of its "historical applications" but for appreciation. Children are (or at least should be) taught to understand and appreciate all of the great works of art in all mediums, whether or not it's literature, (epic) poetry, theater, painting, or the cinema. For that reason, it sould be viewed to be somewhat taken apart, to be understood as a work of art in film, like Homer is read for his great works of poetry, or Shakespeare is read for his great works of theater. The idea that it's a "legitimate teaching tool" is crap: Like all films (documentaries included), it is a carefully constructed fiction. While this is true for any work in any medium (books included), film is at a handicap as a teaching tool for certain things as it is tigher and more condense, the example being that a comparatively long film cannot contain nearly the amount of useful information as a comparatively long book.

    tl;dr: Citizen Kane should be viewed as a work of art for dissection and appreciation as part of what is canon in cinema, not because “you can’t understand the character of our country unless you’ve seen this film.”
  • Rob_Hunter · 10 months ago
    Ditto. And no.
  • ScreenRant.com · 10 months ago
    Cole,

    Thanks so much for starting my day off with a big-assed laugh, bro. :-) Transformers... priceless.

    As to your question, I don't know for sure - but even for a movie as old as that there are amazing elements to it in every facet of filmmaking. From the camera angles used, the cinematography, use of aging make up on Kane, the "mystery" plotline in an otherwise non-mystery movie... you could go on and on.

    And I STILL refuse to sign up for "IntenseDebate." Don't know why... call it a rebellious streak.

    Best,

    Vic
  • 790 · 10 months ago
    Its more than money that controls the world,,,
    Money is just the front game, the real game,,,,,"control" is held in the VIP room.

    Never seen Citizen Kane, doubt it would change my world view,,,,
  • Andy · 10 months ago
    No.
  • ryan Il · 10 months ago
    Just go the library, like I did...its free. There's more important things teacher can show students...like "Cool Runnings"
  • ScreenRant.com · 10 months ago
    Oh God, please... I don't want to hear from the under 30 crowd that this movie isn't "all that."

    Vic
  • Cole_Abaius · 10 months ago
    Come on, Vic! Transformers was WAY better than Citizen Kane!!

    You know that's not the argument. Kane is probably a victim more than anything else for being called the best American film ever made - it makes people who think it's great, but not mindblowing, scoff at it.

    Seriously, we can teach cultural appreciation, but pesky old subjectivity gets in the way of Kane getting widely accepted enough to represent American cinema. If you could only teach one film to students, would it really be Kane?
  • Jessica · 9 months ago
    I might have to agree with Cole here, Transformers was a pretty rockin' movie! lol

    No, but Citizen Kane is a movie that really should be seen by everyone, it is probably one of the most powerful movies of our time.

    Jessica
    Vancouver WA
  • Omek · 10 months ago
    Really?!?! I think saying it's the best movie ever made is quite a stretch.

    Honestly, I just watched it recently. The plot was great, and I can see why people really enjoyed the movie. I loved the "money can't buy everything" theme. One quote really stood out to me as well, "Well, it's no trick to make a lot of money... if what you want to do is make a lot of money." I'm not going to be one of the "kids" here and say that it was a boring piece of trash. You really have to look at it in context and appreciate it for its quality and attention to detail, which a lot of movies are sorely lacking these days.

    I took a film appreciation class in college, and this was not on the list of movies that we studied. In fact, my professor focused more on foreign films than anything else. Now had I not taken the class, I would probably never be watching any foreign films today. I always thought reading the subtitles was way too much work. Now, I couldn't imagine missing out on incredible films like Let the Right One In.

    So, should it be required viewing for high schoolers? Eh, I have to disagree there. If you force them to watch movies like this, you're going to get a negative response, and they will never want to watch older movies ever again. I say it should be offered or at least discussed in any film class in college. In that case, the student actually chooses their schedule and what classes to take, so presenting a movie like this in college would probably garner less harsh attitudes towards older movies. Discussion is also key here. If they don't like it, then they should give specific examples to support their argument.

    Just a thought... ;-)
  • jack2jack · 10 months ago
    For those who attend magnet schools for the arts, I could see his argument. Kids are adrenaline junkies. They are wired off of "High Fructose Corn Syrup" How could they possibly understand classic cinema.
  • nicky_cavella · 10 months ago
    i dont see how citizen kane is the greatest american film of all time. there are other films out there that are better than this.
  • Davebaxter1989 · 10 months ago
    Nobody should be forced to watch anything as that will only make people dislike it much like here in Britain where Shakespeare has been foisted upon the youth and thrown back.
  • ChrisV · 10 months ago
    In my 40 years on this planet I have heard over and over how 'great' Citizen Kane is. I've given it 3 full viewings because I thought there must be something wrong with ME for not seeing the genius of the film. It is one of the most boring and emotionless movies I've seen (critique amped up to match the level of hyperbole).

    Forcing kids to watch, read, or listen to anything really only succeeds in increasing the chances that they will despise the very thing you are pushing on them. Let people discover the film for themselves and make their own decisions.

    I, for one, have given this film a chance, and can honestly and unapologetically say I didn't care for it.
  • Adam_Sweeney · 10 months ago
    I have never understood why some people feel other movie buffs are uneducated if they don't like Citizen Kane. It is a matter of taste and we are all entitled to enjoy whatever we like. I also think Catcher in the Rye is a bit overrated as a novel, does that mean my opinion carries less weight because I don't drink the kool-aid or buy the opinions of those before me? I'd hope not. Hell, if I want to say that Elijah Wood's performance in "North" is the greatest acting performance of this century, which I never would, then that's my right. It's all based on an individual's taste.
  • kleptobum · 10 months ago
    I disagree. A friend of mine owns the movie "Doom" and whenever we argue over movies I just say "Yeah well you own Doom"... He shuts up immediately
  • Andy · 10 months ago
    Hilarious...whenever a friend of mine gets to poo-pooing a quality movie I just think to myself 'Dude, you own full seasons of 'Smallville'...come on.'
  • Adam_Sweeney · 10 months ago
    We all have films that we own based on personal enjoyment. I doubt your friend would say that Doom qualifies as a great film to begin with. Whether he should be punched for owning it is another story, but to each his own.
  • Adam_Sweeney · 10 months ago
    Cool Runnings will be mandatory viewing in my world geography class if I ever teach one. To hell with Citizen Kane, Doug E. Doug's career is a perfect example of the American dream in action.
  • Nish · 10 months ago
    I don't think it is mindblowing or "all that" but it is a good study of America and I think that, along with being the top of the AFI list should be why it should be part of the curriculum (sp?)
  • CrazySphinx · 10 months ago
    I don't know if Citizen Kane is the best movie ever made, but what I know is that I watched it for the first time like a year ago - It didn't feel dated at all! Not a lot of 60 year old movies can blow a young film student like myself, but Kane did, and that's gotta account for something I guess.

    I'm not America, but the idea of making Kane a must-see to highschoolers is totally ridiculous, certainly not the kids of our generation! :)
  • ANGRYBROOMSTICK · 10 months ago
    It's an amazing film and I was amazed how far ahead the movie was of its time.
  • TheGreenMalice · 10 months ago
    I believe there should be a few movies added to the mandatory teaching. If books can be mandatory because of their historical significance, I see no reason why a movie can't be the same. Kane is one of those films.
  • ANGRYBROOMSTICK · 10 months ago
    agreed.
  • ANGRYBROOMSTICK · 10 months ago
    It's really pathetic that many Americans have never seen classics like Casablanca, Gone with the Wind, Citizen Kane, or On the Waterfront. I am one of those few who actually collect old classic films on DVD.
  • anonymous · 10 months ago
    ironically enough, Citizen Kane is required viewing for students of the University of Southern California's School of Cinematic Arts
  • Jason R · 10 months ago
    I think so this movie is truly the best film I have ever seen, and if you love film then this should be required viewing.