DISQUS

Michelle Graham · 1 year ago

Entertaining as always, guys!

Joseph · 1 year ago

Ok, that was amazing. And Rob said poodles near the end. lol

Jim · 1 year ago

Fight Club was a multi-million dollar art house film. Fincher himself said it was a 60 million dollar experimental film.

Robin Ruinsky · 1 year ago

I liked your point counterpoint! Very well done!
However, while I can see the problems with a Copperfield Hulk, I'm thinking A Christmas Carol Hulk would have really worked.
Hulk of Christmas Past! Hulk of Christmas Present! You get the idea.
Perhaps Bob Crachit IS the Hulk?
It ends with Tiny Tim saying "Hulk Bless Us Everyone!"
Okay I'll just take off now!

Jen Yamato · 1 year ago

Nice debate, fellas. I'm on Rob's side as far as Ang Lee's Hulk goes - it's far less bad than people like to say it is. Too bad people that like movies that are about something and made with interesting visions are outnumbered by those that simply want a smash-filled popcorn flick. Which, having seen the new Incredible Hulk, is what that movie is. Shorter and more action-packed, but with far less substance or style or sense.

Shawn · 1 year ago

Ang Lee's Hulk was a great film and this is coming from a comic book fan. The psychological aspects were always a big part of the comics, especially the Bill Mantlo/Peter David runs (hell he even had his own super powered therapist, Doc Sampson)

As for the ending, did you really expect it to be a traditional one? It's as strange and dreamlike as much of the film. Jellyfish and mushroom cloud imagery, dream sequences that don't further the plot but add atmosphere (Bruce’s dream as he falls from the sky). The ending fits - Hulk flailing away at the water, there's something sad in its hopelessness. Set side by side where we see father comfort son, the juxtaposition is haunting.

Poodle hu? That' really bugs people, weird? Uh, what else was the Banner's father going to experiment on? The dogs were another odd, surreal component to the film. I enjoyed the light skewed humor of the mutated dogs, side by side with scenes of violence. Lee keeps us uncomfortable, unbalanced and I enjoyed the scene because of this off kilter pairing of the frightening and the absurd.

So this isn't what we want from a comic book movie? Why do we have to be so narrow in our thinking? Comic books themselves aren't simply mindless action. They are filled with social issues, psychological as well as philosophical. John Ostrander's "Spectre", Alan Moore's.... well anything by Moore is not only cool but also thought provoking. .

I hate should statements as they limit creativity. Why limit what a comic book movie 'should' be? I didn't and because of that I found this to be a thrilling, thoughtful, intelligent, artistic work. It's dreamlike, surreal, the scene where Bruce Hulks out is scary (I LIKE the CGI and the look of the Hulk a lot. I prefer it to that plastic, molded uncooked poultry look of the ‘08 version. The relationship between Betty and Bruce is beautiful and sad. The screenplay offers many powerful moments.... from Bruce admitting that he 'liked it' when he lost control, to Nolte's speech about the death of his wife and how in an instant he lost everything that mattered to him.

I’m a comic book fan, a superhero fan. But I’m not so narrow that all I require from these movies is a big “KABOOM!” I’m very happy that Ang Lee provided something deep, beautiful and profound to the genre.

JonnyB · 1 month ago

lol, this was an awesome debate.
Very witty.

Btw, Ang Lee's Hulk kicks the crap out of the Cloverfield-esque Norton version.
Go acquire some braincells, you popcorn movie fanatics.