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Who the, what the--?! So they are going to make up a story or are they taking something from Tolkein's writings? That has money-grabbing, mythology-wrecking clusterf#&k written all over it. Is Lucas somehow involved?
Aragorns hiding/growing up in Rivendell. Gandalfs struggle with the rising power of Sauron
in Mirkwood, the story of how Frodo came to live with Bilbo. Not too mention Balin's
exploits into Moria.
Tolkien gave us some general information of the overall timeline in the appendices, so it
wouldn't be impossible to create a script from it for the 2nd film. In fact, I would love to see
many of those scenes played out on screen.
Cheers to them for undertaking this endeavor, I think it will be fun.
Anyway, perhaps Mr. Toro can steer away from his obsession with graphic depictions of emotional and physical abuse, and give us something more, shall we say, "euphoric". At least epic would do for starts. With Peter Jackson as commander, that is at least a possibility.
Not to be a complete power-nerd or anything but there were only ever 5 wizards in middle earth (Gandalf, Saruman, Radagast and the 2 blue wizards). The blue guys headed into the east upon arriving in middle earth and aside from that aren't mentioned again. The White Council were the ones responsible for driving out the necromacer from Dol Guldur. White Council being Saruman, Gandalf, Cirdan, Galadriel, and Elrond with the possibility of some other prominent elves ie Celeborn and Thranduil.
I have mixed feelings about this second movie as I can't forsee it having more of a roll than giving back story. Aside from the defeat of the necromancer there weren't a lot of climatic moments in the intervening years between the Battle of Five armies and the start of LoTR. So on one hand I keep thinking that the movie could be great to fanboys like me but might not appeal to a greater audience. On the other hand I doubt the studios would have green-lit a second movie without a good reason (unless of course its all about the money). I guess I'll wait and see how things unfold.
1. Turin Turambar (recently published as "The Children of Hurin")
2. Beren and Luthien
3. The Fall of Gondolin
Forgive me if I've spelled anything wrong there. You wouldn't want to film the whole Silmarillion, but those three stories could make good movies. Lots better than a story about the 60 year period between the Hobbit and LotR. wtf?
calling him a "master director."
Rings?
The whole story of Dol Guldur, for example, will be told.
And as you know, if Dol Guldur is even named, "old men and masters of lore will blanch
and fall silent."
Here are some of the events that need to be recounted. See the chronologies in the
back of the LoTR.
These are some excerpts:
Important Dates
1000
Saruman and Gandalf arrive in Middle-earth around this time.
1100
The Wise (Elrond, Galadriel, Cirdan, Celeborn) discover that an evil power has built a
stronghold at Dol Guldur in Mirkwood.
2060
The Wise fear the power at Dol Guldur may be Sauron.
2463
The White Council is formed. Saruman becomes the Head of the White Council.
2759
Saruman takes up residence at Isengard.
2851
The White Council meets. Gandalf reports that Sauron is at Dol Guldur and urges an
attack, but Saruman overrules him. Saruman begins to desire the One Ring for himself
and starts searching the Gladden Fields.
2939
Saruman learns that Sauron's servants are searching the Gladden Fields for the One
Ring.
2941
The White Council meets. Saruman agrees to attack Dol Guldur, hoping to prevent
Sauron from finding the Ring. The White Council drives Sauron out of Dol Guldur.
2942
Sauron goes in secret to Mordor.
2951
Sauron declares himself openly in Mordor.
2953
The White Council meets for the last time. Saruman lies to the Council, saying he has
learned that the Ring was washed down the Anduin to the Sea. He fortifies Isengard and
begins to spy on Gandalf and sends agents to Bree and the Shire.
2990
Saruman may have begun cross-breeding Orcs and Men around this time.
c. 3000
Saruman uses the palantir of Orthanc and is ensnared by Sauron and becomes a traitor
to the Council. Saruman learns from his spies that the Rangers are guarding the Shire.
3001
The Rangers double their guard on the Shire.
3014
King Theoden of Rohan begins to fall under the influence of Saruman through his agent
Grima Wormtongue.
hopefully this directer can capture the true spirit of Tolkiens work and not produce
another action based movie to please the masses who have never read the books.
ps. the Tolkien story that is best suited for coversion to film I believe would be Turin Turambar. Its got great characters ,love ,friendship ,betrayal ,battles, personal anguish ,great twists , and every thing else under the sun needed to make a epic fantasy movie. Also its shorter and less constricting than a normal novel, perfect for a movie.
hopefully this directer can capture the true spirit of Tolkiens work and not produce
another action based movie to please the masses who have never read the books.
ps.. the Tolkien story that is best suited for coversion to film I believe would be Turin Turambar. Its got great characters ,love ,friendship ,betrayal ,battles, personal anguish ,great twists , and every thing else under the sun needed to make a epic fantasy movie. Also its shorter and less constricting than a normal novel, perfect for a movie.
Now, The Tale of the Children of Húrin (In Silmarillion it was the chapter Of Túrin Turambar, and in Unfinished Tales Narn I Hîn Húrin, properly Narn I Chîn Húrin, CH being pronounced as the scottish loCH), probably would make a great movie, and it's been published in full in book form recently. It's a tragedy with no humour in it though, and no mûmak trunks to surf on. One of the saddest tales I've ever read, but also very beautiful. I don't think any movie could do justice to Middle-earth of the first age. You'd need to create Alan Lee's watercolours on screen without going too far, and still limit CG to a minimum. The various fantastic monsters that aren't humanoid in shape, like dragons, balrogs and giant spiders always need to be CG, though.
From Silmarillion, I'd like to see someone try to pull of Morgoth's and Ungoliant's unholy alliance in CG... they are bound to failure. Glaurung is much easier, as you just need a huge wingless dragon (Glaurung, the father of dragons, had no wings in those ancient days). It could have been done in the 70's. Just rotoscope a live Komodo dragon at 60fps, blow it up to enormous size compared to Túrin, slow it down to 24fps, and you've got it.