Film School Rejects: Discuss: Should Hulk be the Villain in the Avengers Movie?
Davebaxter1989
· 1 year ago
Yes yes and yes again!
I mean how can they have the Hulk with the Avengers on the big screen and have it make sense ALSO it means that we don't need Ed Norton. Now don't get me wrong I'd love to have him back but it doesn't seem likely so just keep him as the Hulk throughout due to some sort of massive breakdown. Plus bringing in a villain for just that movie isn't nearly as compelling as this would be.
Warhead
· 1 year ago
I want the Ultimates to be the basis for the Avengers movie... it could be fantastic
Smurf
· 1 year ago
Hulk should definitely not be a good guy in the movie. Hulk is boring as a gentle green giant, he's only entertaining when he's just as likely to smash Captain America as he is to fight the bad guys, making people legitimately scared of him. He also should not be the main villain. Nothing would be worse than a big CG Hulk talking about his evil master plan. Hulk smashes and that's pretty much it. You can't make an entire movie about the Avengers trying to get Hulk to stop smashing. It would be cool to watch that for like a half hour though while the rest of the plot gets moving.
k(Black)
· 1 year ago
YES! This is true old-school
Reg
· 1 year ago
I dunno you guys but I agree with 'SMURF'. He made a point that I cannot see HULK being a mastermind of an evil plot or reaking havok smashing all the time anywhere else. They need to fuel the the storyline with something. I would love to see something outside the comicbook itself than adapting the Ultimates storyline. Also I would like to see other Marvel characters cameoin in the Avengers movie. That'll be KICK-ASS!!
Gavgoyle
· 1 year ago
YES! I don't see a villain that people could get behind so quickly as a rampaging Hulk.
Simon
· 1 year ago
Sounds like a great Idea, The hulk is not exactly the sharpest tool in the box though is he!, If he does go on the rampage then there would have to be a mastermind behind the scenes orchestrating his actions. He's simple and susceptible to suggestion like in Vol 2:Homeland Security when Captain America lies to the Hulk about the Alien protagonist being 'all over Betty' whiles hes been away - knowing full well the Hulk will tear the Alien a new one.
Davebaxter1989
· 1 year ago
@ Simon
How about the Leader behind the scenes? He was well introduced in The Incredible Hulk.
Conrad Rothbaum
· 1 year ago
I'd say it's a really good chance the The Ultimates will be the basis for the forthcoming marvel movies... How crazy was it to see Hitch's Fury almost literally come to life on screen?
There's a lot of material to be tapped there-- especially with Thor, though I don't expect hardcore Thor fans will welcome the hippie-activist version of Thor.
astroblack
· 1 year ago
I wouldn't mind the Hulk as the villain at all. Just make him misunderstood and not evil. And like Smurf said, him as the primary villain wouldn't be good at all..
Maybe since the FF4 movies are good as dead now they can bring in Dr. Doom as the main villain and make him the bad-ass he should've originally been. I don't know about you guys, but I would love to see the Avengers battle Doom at his full potential. Throw in a little off-screen intel assistance from Mr. Fantastic and we could have a very interesting movie on our screens.
Nish
· 1 year ago
I'd imagine that the Hulk would be the bad guy, maybe due to some emotional breakdown or some chemical reaction inside him. The Avengers would fight him and maybe cure him or at least restain him and then maybe at the end we find out it was the Leader behind it all. I think for a comic book movie to work, the head honcho bad guy has to be a real bastard, which the hulk isnt. I think the Hulk would work as an adversary but not really a villan - he isnt bad enough.
Schofizzy
· 1 year ago
The reason why Hulk would be perfect as the villain in the Avengers film is simple. He is not the villain, but he must be contained so that he doesn't unleash his semi-controlled rampages on America or the World for that matter. Banner cannot always contain his rage and he is a danger to society, so the Avengers team must work together to find him and stop him from becoming the Hulk again. Now, I agree this definately should not be the only storyline, this would only be 1/3 of the plot. But there is alot to be said for the superhero's who care for eachother but must work together to take down an associate.
Whether Hulk is the villain or not, after rewatching Ironman on DVD, I noticed a way that they can solve Favreau 's articulated fear about trying to fit Thor (with the extra-worldly element and mythological nature of hi storyline into their "realistic" depiction of Ironman & Hulk. It may take a slight modification of Thor's story, but not much.
In Ironman, when they destroy the reactor, a huge dispersion of kinetic energy and electricity by way of lightning is released into the sky/atmosphere. Since we know that the stories (Ironman & Hulk) overlap due to the RDJ cameo with General Ross, or it can be implied that they are somewhere around the same time since General Ross replies to Stark that he should be one to talk about having a slight problem (i.e. revealing his identity as Ironman.)
In Hulk, when they are at the cave during the rainstorm, the lightning is pretty ferocious and Hulk reacts to it with irritation. You could make the stretch or case that this storm on the east coast was caused by a shift in the atmospheric pressure and weather patterns due to Stark's reactor going off.
Further, if you play Donald Blake as a literature loving, amatuer thespian who becomes a disabled medical student (i.e. Blake uses literature and acting as a hobby/outlet to offset the stress of being a doctor), then you can have him struck by lightning. Since many people assume that you get pretty messed up when you get struck by lightning, when Blake starts articulating everything in Elizabethan speak and talking about how he has seen all of this mythology in person, people write him off on account of the "accident." In this way, you can cut to the "extra-worldly" scenes which to the casual fans, will be interpreted as a dream sequence, while the hardcore fans will know that Blake is actually telling the truth based on their knowledge of the comics. Thus, the common folk in the movie and the casual fans will believe one thing, and Blake and the hardcore comic fan will believe his story.
So, you can tie the lightning strike as an effect of Stark's reactor also. How you bring the hammer into, I am not sure, perhaps Blake is participating in a Mythological Greek Play in the park (a la Shakespeare in the park in NYC.) A storm could unexpectedly blow in (as a result of the weather shift Stark's reactor causes.) Thus, the last thing that he is doing before getting struck by lightning is a Greek Play so when he wakes from his coma, he is like those people who wake up only to speak with a foreign accent and no one around them believes them. You could explore the other-worldly mythological elements through dream sequences (after changing in to Thor or as a result of lingering concussive after effects of the lightning accident.)
Then you carry on the story as he discovers his latent abilities with the hammer. Of course, his case is reported in a science/medical journal that both Stark and Banner would be reading to keep abreast of developments in science/technology (maybe popular science.)
May not work, but it struck me that they could tie the stories together in a pseudo-reality, especially the challenge of the mythology present in the Thor story, with the lightning aspect through Stark's scientific/technological angle.
Unsub
· 1 year ago
I for one would like to see maybe Exodus and the Acolytes. And maybe even if they made sequels to the avengers, they could tie in the X-Men (Or at least some of them) For special apperances.
Also want to see the Age of Apocalypse turned into live action moives!
brotherpink
· 8 months ago
ULTRON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
andries price
· 7 months ago
yes the hulk will be the villain on the avengres i saw the incredible hulk on dvd so im robert downey jr. and don cheadle siged on the avengres edward norton will play the hulk on the avengres as the villain be careful the hulk is hard he 's angrey he's doen't like when he's angrey so the avengres will stop them john cena as captain america others will play thor antman bumblebee and scarlett johnsson as black window sameul l jackson as nick fury put john cena as captain america on the avengres the avengres comes in may 4th 2012. i think john cena will be good as captain america
andries price
· 7 months ago
im not robert downey jr. and don cheadle im andries put john cena as captain america on the avengres john cena is cool please put john cena as captain america on the avengres think about the money and fans john cena will rule as captain america the avengres comes in may 4th 2012
andries price
· 7 months ago
on the avengres starring robert downey jr. don cheadle john cena as captain america alexander skarsgard as thor wanda sykes as bumblebee girl matthew o donnell as antman scarlett johnsson as black window samuel l jackson as nick fury edward norton as the incredible hulk the avengres onley in theatres july 4th 2012.
Evolutionary
· 4 months ago
Frankly ..since you have the Thor movie coming out before the Avengers movie. I would like to see Loki return as the villanous mastermind who un-wittingly brings about the formation of the Avengers like in the number 1 issue of the Avengers comic. Frankly not all fired up about the Ultimates myself ..I'm just old school.
ThaMessenger
· 3 weeks ago
I think the Hulk would be a phenomenal opponent but not villain, he's not a villain at all. you make him misunderstood and pissed off!!! They should probably choose a greater nemesis through the course of the film and banner being able to control the transformation but not the hulk. They need him to defeat there enemy and he does with awesome ease! after they gain victory the hulk goes on a rampage for something to do with Betty and that's when the $h!t hits the fan! and you get a 20 minutes to half an hour of an all out brawl with the hulk on top of the shield headquarters and in the streets of NY allowing the main foe to escape and a group effort to control the Hulk. I also think the movie should include Hawkeye and Falcon as shield agents and Pym and his wife as scientist for shield. I think the movie should end with a captured Bruce locked away at shield so when hes needed in the next movie it creates conflict and though I doubt the will I would like them to cameo Spidey for one reason...........I think ULTIMATE 6 would be an awesome sequel!!!!
That's Just me!
p.s I have submitted scripts.....................not like it matters much HAha
All Comments
I mean how can they have the Hulk with the Avengers on the big screen and have it make sense ALSO it means that we don't need Ed Norton. Now don't get me wrong I'd love to have him back but it doesn't seem likely so just keep him as the Hulk throughout due to some sort of massive breakdown. Plus bringing in a villain for just that movie isn't nearly as compelling as this would be.
How about the Leader behind the scenes? He was well introduced in The Incredible Hulk.
marvel movies... How crazy was it to see Hitch's Fury almost literally come to life on screen?
There's a lot of material to be tapped there-- especially with Thor, though I don't expect
hardcore Thor fans will welcome the hippie-activist version of Thor.
Maybe since the FF4 movies are good as dead now they can bring in Dr. Doom as the main villain and make him the bad-ass he should've originally been. I don't know about you guys, but I would love to see the Avengers battle Doom at his full potential. Throw in a little off-screen intel assistance from Mr. Fantastic and we could have a very interesting movie on our screens.
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In Ironman, when they destroy the reactor, a huge dispersion of kinetic energy and electricity by way of lightning is released into the sky/atmosphere. Since we know that the stories (Ironman & Hulk) overlap due to the RDJ cameo with General Ross, or it can be implied that they are somewhere around the same time since General Ross replies to Stark that he should be one to talk about having a slight problem (i.e. revealing his identity as Ironman.)
In Hulk, when they are at the cave during the rainstorm, the lightning is pretty ferocious and Hulk reacts to it with irritation. You could make the stretch or case that this storm on the east coast was caused by a shift in the atmospheric pressure and weather patterns due to Stark's reactor going off.
Further, if you play Donald Blake as a literature loving, amatuer thespian who becomes a disabled medical student (i.e. Blake uses literature and acting as a hobby/outlet to offset the stress of being a doctor), then you can have him struck by lightning. Since many people assume that you get pretty messed up when you get struck by lightning, when Blake starts articulating everything in Elizabethan speak and talking about how he has seen all of this mythology in person, people write him off on account of the "accident." In this way, you can cut to the "extra-worldly" scenes which to the casual fans, will be interpreted as a dream sequence, while the hardcore fans will know that Blake is actually telling the truth based on their knowledge of the comics. Thus, the common folk in the movie and the casual fans will believe one thing, and Blake and the hardcore comic fan will believe his story.
So, you can tie the lightning strike as an effect of Stark's reactor also. How you bring the hammer into, I am not sure, perhaps Blake is participating in a Mythological Greek Play in the park (a la Shakespeare in the park in NYC.) A storm could unexpectedly blow in (as a result of the weather shift Stark's reactor causes.) Thus, the last thing that he is doing before getting struck by lightning is a Greek Play so when he wakes from his coma, he is like those people who wake up only to speak with a foreign accent and no one around them believes them. You could explore the other-worldly mythological elements through dream sequences (after changing in to Thor or as a result of lingering concussive after effects of the lightning accident.)
Then you carry on the story as he discovers his latent abilities with the hammer. Of course, his case is reported in a science/medical journal that both Stark and Banner would be reading to keep abreast of developments in science/technology (maybe popular science.)
May not work, but it struck me that they could tie the stories together in a pseudo-reality, especially the challenge of the mythology present in the Thor story, with the lightning aspect through Stark's scientific/technological angle.
Also want to see the Age of Apocalypse turned into live action moives!
I would like to see Loki return as the villanous mastermind who un-wittingly brings
about the formation of the Avengers like in the number 1 issue of the Avengers comic.
Frankly not all fired up about the Ultimates myself ..I'm just old school.
That's Just me!
p.s I have submitted scripts.....................not like it matters much HAha