DISQUS

Film School Rejects: Discuss: Are R-Rated Blockbusters a Thing of the Past?

  • ANGRYBROOMSTICK · 8 months ago
    Ugh, PG-13. Look what happened to Max Payne!
  • Chille · 8 months ago
    God, this is very, very bad news. Looks like we're going to see more movies ruined for the sake of money.
  • RobertFure · 8 months ago
    Good movies make money. Bad ones don't. The argument against R-rated films is insanely stupid. Transformers doesn't need to be rated R. Batman doesn't need to be rated R. Watchmen HAD to be rated R. 300 HAD to be rated R. Have we seriously forgot that R-Rated movies make money when they're good? The Matrix, 300, Friday the 13th, SAW, Wedding Crashers, Gladiator, etc. All of those made more than $55 million, with Wedding Crashers and Gladiator making over $150 million.

    One R-Rated movie that was targeted at a very small niche audience with a runtime of 2hrs 45min doesn't make $100 million and the R-Rating is at fault? No thanks - Watchmen was a hard sell and was never going to make big box office.

    WB just has to remember that the R-Rated Terminator 2 made more than $150 million. If the movie is good, regardless of rating, people will see it. Don't go the Live Free or Die Hard route - that movie sucked mad ass in Theaters, but the unrated DVD was actually entertaining.

    This is why I hate the internet - everything can be turned into an immediate crisis based on one sentence and next thing you know, the world is crumbling around us.
  • BlackB · 8 months ago
    money and art mix like oil and vinegar. if its R make it R if its PG-13 then make it that way. terminator will do fine whether its R or not. i wish the WB would realize that.
  • ERoBB · 8 months ago
    No, the day of the rated R blockbuster arent over. Is Hollywood really that blind? The thing about Iron Man and X-Men is that they're Popcorn Movies. People go to them to shut their brains off. But intelligent movie goers still want to be rewarded.
  • _Christopher_M · 8 months ago
    crappy script and director...don't forget 20th Century Fox made it...I think it's rating was the least of it's problem...
  • BigPoppa · 8 months ago
    "Good movies" dont make bank.Bad flicks are the ones making consistent box office.This is why we have parody flicks,and enough remakes to make any sane movie-goer nauseous.This is why the indie movie scene's still on shaky ground,unless a major studio backs your movie,your films gonna be lucky to see a dvd release.Most of my favorite movies that i would consider GREAT bombed the box office and only saw a small cult audience on dvd.
  • BigPoppa · 8 months ago
    R ratings,or ratings in general have little to do with the problem,its dumb people seeing dumb movies.
  • andrew · 8 months ago
    i agree with BigPoppa and the others who've expressed their sentiments about dumb moviegoers. case in point, look at the grosses of twilight ($160 mil) and Paul Blart ($140 mil).
  • Sarah Conner · 8 months ago
    I'd hate to see rated R blockbusters go the way of the dodo. But there are lots of kids with lots of money, and mommy and daddy don't want them seeing tits and blood-- save that stuff for when they turn into sexually repressed seventeen year olds with no concept of death.

    I hope McG's Terminator gets the R rating he wants. This is a post-apocalyptic war flick focusing on humanity's last stand against an unstoppable evil mechanical force-- given the story material, it shouldn't get a kid-friendly rating just because of the absence of tits and blood. But America is such a prudish country, I have a feeling that PG-13 films and the MPAA's rating system will have a long lasting reign over the film industry.
  • TJL · 8 months ago
    Anyone want to bet they'll make Terminator PG-13, then after it goes to DVD, the R rated "director's cut" will be released along side the PG-13 version?
  • _Christopher_M · 8 months ago
    it's true if a movie sets out to be violent and dark themed that's one thing.....but if Terminator Salvation only needs to cut "one" nude scene to get the PG-13 rating...and if that cut doesn't effect the story or tone what's the harm?...if they toned down the violence of the machines and gloom of a post-apocalyptic to get that rating that's another thing....if that nude scene is the only thing holding it back cut it...if the studio is talking about cutting more then I'll side with McG
  • RobertFure · 8 months ago
    Maybe the nudity serves a greater purpose. McG isn't known for nudity and the Terminator movies aren't known for needless nudity. If you look at the first Terminator, there is not only naked Arnold butt, but a sex scene and breasts.

    The nudity should stay. Even if it is a total gratuitous tit shot. Fuck PG-13 for the Terminator franchise. PG-13 ruined Live Free or Die Hard.
  • _Christopher_M · 8 months ago
    Live Free wasn't all that bad...Wiseman did a decent job all things considering....bad guys were still killed by McClane just not as gruesome...

    you have to admit that if a studio is spending 100-150million it's going to hard to get their money back in domestic box office...American moviegoers like their films PG-13 it comes down to numbers unfortunately..along with the fascist anti-sex MPAA having way too much power over films and how they are released....internationally people rarely look at ratings when it comes to profits...if it's a solid film R or PG-13 it will blow up DVD and Bluray sales so the studio will make their money back...


    when it comes to Terminator I don't want casual cursing and random nakedness...the reason for nudity/sex scene in the original Terminator was to show John's conception ...I'm not sure how Moon's character is that important her nudity will effect the story...on the other hand why isn't there a sex scene between Bale and Bryce?..I think that would be more important... blood and gore is something I expect considering we're seeing Terminators unleashed and not covert/hiding among humans....the R rating is a standard in the franchise I'm not questioning that...but I don't know if American audiences will be getting that in a theater cut....

    that said I can't wait for McG to start work on T5 and T6....
  • nomar · 8 months ago
    oh no! a teenager might (gasp) see boobs! are we seriously that backwards when it comes to nudity or blood? jeez
  • Cole_Abaius · 8 months ago
    I saw boobs when I was a teenager and it destroyed me for the rest of my life. The MPAA is right to warn us all!
  • James Van Fleet · 8 months ago
    Since when have R-rated blockbusters ever been a trend?

    They're anomalous, with most of the fare succeeding on the basis of offering something startlingly new (300, Wedding Crashers, The Passion of the Christ) or something that absolutely commands popular attention (Gran Torino, The Departed). The only R-rated hits that anyone predicted in the last decade were the Matrix sequels.

    This commentary seems to be based on a false assumption.
  • RobertFure · 8 months ago
    Live Free or Die PG-13 was not good. Live Free or Die Unrated was good. McClane curses. His tag line is "Yippi Ki Yay, Mother Fucker" and they didn't even let him say it. That is Blasphemy of the highest order.

    Terminator: Rated R, $40mil US. Terminator 2: Rated R, $200mil US. Terminator 3: Rated R, $150mil, US. The studio should work on releasing a good movie. How excited is the world about T4? If it was rated NC-17 it would still make $100 million.

    What it comes down to, for me, is if a director/writer/production thinks the story needs to be told in a Rated-R manner, I want to see it. If they make a Rated-R movie and it gets cut to a PG-13, that's basically like switching from Widescreen to Full Screen. You're not getting the whole picture.

    If this movie is rated PG-13, I'm going to pay a bum to sit outside the WB lot pooping.
  • curt · 8 months ago
    fuck PG-13. i only wanted to see this movie because christian bale is a beast but if it is not R there is no reason for me to see it
  • curt · 8 months ago
    the passion of the christ should not have been R. fuck that bullshit. fuck mel gibson
  • djjeffhall · 8 months ago
    Perhaps the reason Watchmen isn't making the bank of Dark Knight and Iron Man is Watchmen is not a very good movie and the later two are?

    As for R Rated Blockbusters, wasn't Titanic rated R? (I would think it had to be for the Kate Winslet naked drawing scene, but I don't recall?)

    If a quality flick happens to be rated R, the studios are not going to step in. (Not that I loved Titanic in any way.)

    Comic Book's, and comic book movies, are targeted to kids. 11 year olds cannot get into an R Rated flick.

    Hollywood always look for the latest trend. In their mind one superhero movie is the same as any other. If Watchmen had been made by a good director and focused on some sort of relatable story in 2 hours it would have succeeded. I saw Watchmen and enjoyed it, but I cannot imagine really wanting to see it again. Nor can I imagine taking my girl to see it, or trying to talk my friends into seeing it. Iron Man and TDK both got multiple viewing in the theater from me, along with me taking dates and friends.
  • djjeffhall · 8 months ago
    Perhaps the reason Watchmen isn't making the bank of Dark Knight and Iron Man is Watchmen is not a very good movie and the later two are?

    As for R Rated Blockbusters, wasn't Titanic rated R? (I would think it had to be for the Kate Winslet naked drawing scene, but I don't recall?) As long as Titanic has the number one all time box office, there will be room for R Rated flicks.

    If a quality flick happens to be rated R, the studios are not going to step in. (Not that I loved Titanic in any way.)

    Comic Book's, and comic book movies, are targeted to kids. 11 year olds cannot get into an R Rated flick.

    Hollywood always look for the latest trend. In their mind one superhero movie is the same as any other. If Watchmen had been made by a good director and focused on some sort of relatable story in 2 hours it would have succeeded. I saw Watchmen and enjoyed it, but I cannot imagine really wanting to see it again. Nor can I imagine taking my girl to see it, or trying to talk my friends into seeing it. Iron Man and TDK both got multiple viewing in the theater from me, along with me taking dates and friends.