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Film School Rejects: Disability Rights Coalition Issues Demands of ‘Tropic Thunder’

  • Keith · 1 year ago
    Ha ha ha ha ha.
  • Homero · 1 year ago
    Ok, now THAT's retarded.
  • laurieJuspeczyk1986 · 1 year ago
    This is BEYOND absurd.

    Anyone who has SEEN the movie knows that the whole Simple Jack element is poking fun at HOLLYWOOD, not people with disabilities. It's used as a device to skewer the movie industry in an accurate and often hilarious way. My own brother has disabilities and I wasn't even slightly offended by the movie. What offends me is when groups that are meant to protect people from actual harm, take up a cause that is completely unfounded and nonsensical, thereby giving themselves a fanatical reputation. If any of the group's leaders actually watched the film, they would know its harmless.
  • Homero · 1 year ago
    Another thought on this subject. If "mentally handicapped" people are offended by a minute-long trailer for Simple Jack, then shouldn't all Mexicans be offended by that horrendous excuse for a movie; Beverly Hills Chihuahua?
  • TruthFirst · 1 year ago
    America has an uneasy relationship with Africa. The latest attack arrives in theatres this week with the new American film, "Tropic Thunder" in which a white man puts on blackface.

    There is nothing amusing about blackface. It is a highly racist and offensive depiction of Africans. Its sole purpose is to demean us and to propagate the stereotype that Africans are on this Earth merely for the amusement.

    http://truthfirstnow.blogspot.com
  • Cole Abaius · 1 year ago
    Homero, everyone is offended by Beverly Hills Chihuahua.

    Even I agree that a list of demands is a but beyond the pale for the issue, but the fact remains that a certain portion of the population is rightfully offended by an element in the movie.

    Neil, I love the fact that we keep highlighting the fact that these people haven't seen the movie, but they've seen the clip and read the dialog. If the argument is that within context the joke is non-offensive, what about all the people that are seeing the clip over and over again outside of context (and without getting checked for ID?)
  • Cole Abaius · 1 year ago
    Erm, that sweetly worded rhetorical question should be aimed at Fure I suppose since he keeps bolding that phrase. Sorry, man, I get you and Neil confused all the time because you look.beardedly similar.
  • Robert Fure · 1 year ago
    Well Cole, they are trying to boycott the entire film and saying that the film (not the trailer) makes fun of those with disabilities. I guess if maybe they just aimed at the trailer, that'd be something different. Regardless, is it acceptable to judge something without having all the facts? Would those with disabled children want us to form an opinion on them based on a 15 second sound bite or is there more to it than that?

    Someone is always going to be offended by comedy. Where do we draw the line? If there were a group of people who were called "Rejects" in school or those who were Rejected from a film school and this website name offended them, should we change it? You can say that's stretching, but with a film that will probably sell 9 million tickets in its opening weekend, is the number of the offended outweighing the number of non-offended? This is a movie going democracy, and if by and large people are not offended by this and choose to go see the movie, then that's really that. That's how these things work. It takes a majority of people to make a change, not a minority. Should a vocal minority be able to dictate policy or should the silent majority be able to see the movie without being judged?

    Overweight people surely don't enjoy being made the butt of the joke. I'm sure Preppy Jocks don't appreciate always being moronic douchebags. Give an inch of your comedy ground in the name of not offending someone and you'll lose a mile.

    And can someone even be "wrongfully offended?" You're either offended or you're not. It's a personal thing. You're never going to please everyone.
  • Robert Fure · 1 year ago
    @TruthFirst

    You should also probably check out the movie before making your judgment. Robert Downey Jr. does not play the role of a black man in the movie. Robert Downey Jr's character is a white Australian male. His role lampoons method actors, not a race. Please check out our further coverage on Tropic Thunder to hear what Downey himself has to say about the issue. But see the movie and you'll hopefully come to the realization that Downey is not in black face, Kirk Lazarus is.
  • JD · 1 year ago
    Free publicity for Dreamworks, and by extension, Tropic THunder! Maybe this will be the movie that topples The Dark Knight.
  • Cole Abaius · 1 year ago
    Oh, Fure, you've always had the nuance of a jackhammer. If you can't see the fundamental comedic difference in making fun of those who are on pedestals versus those who life has put under them, then the argument isn't going to matter.

    But perhaps I could illustrate it in a different way - publicity. I'd argue that this is not great publicity for the film (despite the usual aphorism of all press being good press). A film with controversy like Passion of the Christ caused more people to see it because the concept and the controversy surrounded something thought-provoking, something that people wanted to see for themselves. People complained about the depictions of Jews, the depiction of Christ, and audiences wanted to be aware of it so they could be part of the conversation.

    In contrast, I feel its safe to assume no one is going to see Tropic Thunder that doesn't already plan on seeing it based on this controversy. Partly because they can see the clip online but mostly because the prospect of seeing Ben Stiller cartoonishly portray a mentally handicapped person isn't enough to stir someone who wasn't already psyched to see it.

    I agree that the film shouldn't be changed, but I appreciate the sheer number of rhetorical questions in your second paragraph. That takes a lot of insight, and I salute that, as well as your beard-growing prowess.
  • Aleric · 1 year ago
    So the people that presented this were Retarded themselves right?? Right??
    That or they have balls the size of watermelons.
  • Robert Fure · 1 year ago
    My beard is looking pretty tight these days.
  • Supernetuser · 1 year ago
    People are taking Tropic Thunder way too personal. Its just silly. Its like Janet Jackson's boob at the Superbowl all over again.
  • Nathan · 1 year ago
    We also demand 100 billion dollars, the location of the Maltese falcon, and an autographed picture of George Cloony.
  • Robert Fure · 1 year ago
    @Nathan
    Awesome. I laughed.

    And strange fact, the Maltese Falcon 3-Disc DVD is on sale at Best Buy for $9.99
  • David · 1 year ago
    These people jus want money and rec. because they havent done this with lower budget movies that made fun of the disabled or mentally handicapped. This is Happening to T.T. strictly because of it being a high budget film and having big name actors in it.
  • Dr Hugh · 1 year ago
    I wish to protest about the vile and gratuitous smoking of tobacco by Robert Downey Jr and I want you to pay me for opening my fat fucking mouth about it. I have no concept of satire and a colossal ego to feed.

    Think about the children.
  • Kathleen S. · 1 year ago
    I'm blonde. They better not make fun of blondes in this movie, because I might get offended. If they do, does that mean I get to make demands too? Neato!

    Man, people just take things way too seriously!
  • James PG · 1 year ago
    This would make much more sense if the protesters protesting the film actually saw the film before taking their stance on this. I saw a prescreening of the movie last week and its obvious that Ben Stiller's character is promoting the same general cause of the Disabilities Rights Group. His character, Tugg Speedman is criticized for making the 'Simple Jack' movie and it almost ruins his career.

    I agree that there should be some sensitivity toward their cause, but their "demands" are unrealistic. They're demanding these things without even having seen the film...

    The movie is hilarious btw, its got a lot of funny moments and nice surprises. I would highly recommend it!
  • Supernetuser · 1 year ago
    *headdesk*. . . stupid political correctness is just taking over the world. People can't laugh at anything anymore because somebody doesn't know the difference between fiction and reality-based humorous attacks on humor itself. I was listening to NPR's interview of that guy who runs those PC groups anyway. Instead of boycotting a film over something silly, let's all go see it. Fure, comedy is there to make fun of something. Those crazy jocks who get offended at being seen as preppy all the time? They probably don't care. They're too busy playing dumb. Oh! I just offended the dumb jocks for the sake of comedy! The dumb jocks are now a special interest group! I can't make fun of the dumb jocks anymore for selling their soul to the lack of intelligence they crave, because I could be thrown rocks at i.e. stoned to death in a very biblical sense. Oh my goodness, I just got un politically correct again, I made fun of the bible. Great.. can people stop getting self-righteous and offended over everything? Nothing is funny anymore to anyone. How am I supposed to become a comedian among other things in an unfunny world? I've been guilty as charged of getting offended over stupid stuff before. I'm now realizing that it makes life boring to be offended at the slightest thing. Come on people.
  • Clerks_girl · 1 year ago
    I'm a special education teacher, as well as a home care provider for a Downes Syndrome boy- that being said, i take NO offense to any of the content (down right i find it fucking funny), nor should I think the 'advocates' have any qualms either. I'm so sick of being p.c. to have a say in entertainment, and the content of it. The jokes weren't made at any one's expense because even in the movie (if it were watched by said advocates) ben stiller's character (mind you, once again, ben's playing a role...that play's the role) is reprimanded for that choice.

    The demands are outrageous. Clearly they're hoping that the studio will actually feel shitty for this film and hand out freebies such as a campaign...which is just showing the fact that they're too lazy to fund it on thier own.

    Now we just have to wait for some Black's right movement to get on Downy's ass and make a list of demands. Then this movie can really get the full attention it needs-really.