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Film School Rejects: Cinema Sleuth: Fox and the Case of the Outraged Fans

  • Brian Rodden · 10 months ago
    It smells in here...
  • Joshi · 10 months ago
    I can't really be angry at a studio who keeps doling out dud films, it's well known that Fox go above and beyond to interfere as much as possible with whatever projects they've got going to make sure it's as "financially viable" as possible, with the obvious result being what you've shown us here, a whole bunch of films that have just made more than their budget back along with more films that didn't.

    So in other words, I'm not angry at Fox for being bad at what they do, no matter how many decent film-makers and actors get struck down in their wake, if anything, I just pity them.

    But in all honestly, their track record for canceling TV shows before even giving them a decent chance, and the whole Watchman thing (not the lawsuit against WB. but just the fact that they sat on it for 20 years, and likely would have messed it royally up if they ever got round to making it anyway) doesn't exactly sit them in my good books.

    My question though, does anyone actually pay attention to the studio? I watch out for upcoming films, but pay very little attention to the actual studio. When I go see a movie, I don't see the Fox logo and immediately think "Oh great, here comes a piece of crap, I should have seen that film showing next door made by Disney.", it literally almost never registers with me that "This studio kind of has a habit of not doing very good movies" when I'm sitting down to a movie.
  • MoMo · 10 months ago
    we all wish "Arrested Development" would've continued. trust me.

    but i have to slightly disagree with you on your last paragraph through my own personal opinion. Usually, when i see a title card telling me it's a Pixar film i just assume it will be good. but i would say about 80% of my attitude toward seeing a movie would go toward the actual trailer.

    i'm still not going to see "Wolverine" though.
  • Joshi · 10 months ago
    Pixar can't really be used in this argument because it's such an anomaly. I don't know any other movie studio whose movies people anticipate coming out simply because it comes from said studio and not based on anything else. Usually when people anticipate a movie months or years in advanced it's because it's based on an existing property (comic book, novel, sequel, etc). But ten years ago, had Paramount announced that they were going to make a film about a robot who develops a personality and saves the world, people wouldn't care, it's an original script, not based off of anything, why should we care about it when it's not even in production yet? Pixar says this and we're all anticipating Oscars before the film had even come out.

    We know Pixar delivers quality, but we don't know of any studio that has that level of consistency with their quality (yes, even Cars, it may not have hit the same level of Pixarness, but it was a good film). Even Fox has done some amazing films in their time, they're not consistently bad (yes, 2008 was a bad year for them), so again, I can't say many people judge a movie based on the studio.
  • MoMo · 10 months ago
    very good points. this is a weak argument to begin with. i guess i was just attempting a semi-devil's advocate deal.

    it's not like the other studios didn't have misfires this year either. it just seems like Fox decided to pile them on.
  • Joshi · 10 months ago
    Someone had to play devils advocate.

    And with luck, since Fox piled them on last year, it might mean they've got some good ones coming out next year... I don't really have my hopes up on that though.
  • RobertFure · 10 months ago
    Die Hard. Star Wars. Fox earned some leeway.
  • Aleric · 10 months ago
    Agree Robert. Whenever I heard the or saw the 20th Century Fox logo come up it always make me thing Star Wars was coming on I had seen it that many times. To this day I can hear the drums start up and it makes me think of those original movies.
  • Meat-Popsicle · 10 months ago
    I can hat Fox for releasing abysmal movies in 2008, I can be slightly disgruntled by the lawsuit (but face it they had the right, and were right in suing over watchmen...but I digress) but Fox has released some amazing movies over the years: Die Hard, Alien, Predator, Star Wars, The Rocky Horror Picture Show, Revenge of the Nerds...well maybe they arent all amazing but they are pretty damn good still.
  • Aleric · 10 months ago
    They get some slack for those films but you can only ride on your rep for so long before it starts to sound like a bad Fonzie impersonation.......
  • Fox RULES!!!!!!!!!!! · 10 months ago
    Twelve O'Clock High, The Day the Earth Stood Still (the original of course), The Fly, Planet of the Apes (again the orginal), Patton, The French Connection, Young Frankenstein, Rocky Horror Picture Show, Star Wars (all fo them) , Alien, Porkys, Revenge of the Nerds, Commando, Aliens, BIG TROUBLE IN LITTLE CHINA, The princess Bride, Predetor, Die Hard (again all of them), Speed, Fight Club, Office Space, Road to Perdition, X-men/X2, Idiocracy,...Those are just the freakin sweet films I have in my collection from Fox. Haters Hate but a bad year doesnt mean a bad company
  • Nevernude · 10 months ago
    Fox are a hit-and-miss compnay and thats why i hate them. You've listed a good slate of movies in that list, but you'll find that in between these classic films, Fox released other turds. They seem to throw movies at the cinemagoer, good or bad, hoping that one or more of them make some money.
    Im not saying the other movies studios (WB, Universal, Pixar etc..) are any better, but no idiot would watch the entirety of Meet the Spartans, Meet Dave, The Happening etc...and think to themselves "well this is good enough to warrant release"...
  • MJB · 10 months ago
    Let's not forget the previously announced live action adaptation of "Cowboy Bebop"....with Keanu as Spike...
  • Brent Peconi · 10 months ago
    F*** Fox.