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If there is a hook to be let off of, that is.
SPOILERS
AHEAD
Well Nathen, first off, the car race in the beginning was symbolic of the coldwar between the US and the USSR, we just didn't get that right away because we think those are Marines. But then it also explains why the lead vehicle would race in the first place, (right off the bat the film is allready into symbology).
BTW,That base was refered to as Hanger 51 in the film, not Area 51.
Area 51, is an "Underground base" that uses an Airbase as a cover and also wasn't built til 1951. As we see the film takes place in 1947.
I agree the Russians were nothing compared to the Nazi's they seemed souless and stupid. A better choice would have been (the original men in black the OSS).
The film was complex I guess if you have kids and there trying to keep up.
There was a brillaint scene where Speilberg practically SCREAMS out a warning of the NWO! I thought it was amazing how he used bright light to emphisize his point. (SEE THE LIGHT PEOPLE). That scene is where the Russian leader forces Indy to stare into the Skull , (You have to pay attention to the dialog).
The Alien angle was appropriate because the Skull was an Alien artifact.
How was that a surprise the Skull is right there on the Poster?
The past films have used Supernatural forces, how is that more real than alien life? (Since both catagories are considered conspiracy or voodoo). ;-)
Also, if you do the research on alien origins. There's alot of stories about Aliens at one time that came to this planet to mine Gold they used slave labor to do it.
The story here in Indy 4 is pretty simple, at one time in the past the Mayans found a way to stop the aliens and freeze them in their ship, in a sorta suspendid dimensional animation. The Skull was taken from the location and acts as a Key.
When man is exposed to the Skull it takes over the person and compels him to return the artifact to the Lost City of Gold. (Sometimes resulting in madness).
The ending is simply this, the Skull leads our heros to the Lost City of Gold, witch is a false city only to get men to want to seek it out for the gold, the Skull only wants to be reunited with its lost host (Key). Once returned we realise that the aliens are evil and by returning the Skull they have released the evil aliens from their prison. (It was very similar to the first film if anything).
Again Indys left with nothing at the end except a good tale and well you know.....
I thought that you were right about Harrison being just a little off and the Shia monkey scene was a little over the top but the film was visually stunning and wasn't boring.
This film has more chase scene time than all past films combined. And let's face it Cate Blanchett was Smoking Hot!
I had a good time.
I hope that clears some things up Nathen.
That's 1957, not 47. Shia's pompadour and the opening shot being set to Elvis Presley should've cleared that up.
NEVADA 1947
Anyone else see a 1957????
WENT THROUGH WATCHING YOUR TERRIBLE RE-MAKE OF A GREAT TRILOGY. ROT IN HELL
YOU FAT PEICE OF <--censored-->
I still say its 1947, and a friend of mine is going to see it tomarrow, he's going to doublecheck that for me.
Anyway my point was that the base wasn't Area 51. It was Hanger 51. A Speilberg nod to the infamous base.
Also, the plot itself isn't too convoluted. However, the argument made here is that the way the plot is given to the audience makes it rediculously hard to follow throughout.
Listen, I tried to defend this movie too, but once it ended I just couldn't do it anymore. The major points still stand.
Anytime I understand what's going on better than Indy, that's not a good sign.
The antz were very twisted.
Thats gotta hurt.
Back then with these effects and ET theme It would have been fucking HUGE!!
Why now does it suck? And fans calling Lucas (¤$$#o€)?
The guy changed movies forever and he's a living ledgend and because you don't agree with the plot of Indy 4 and hate Jar Jar Binks, he's fucking satan?
What the Fuck people????
Get a grip on reality blank and anybody, the guys doing the best he can shit ya think he wants to fail??? ;-)
Their trying to make a family fun adventure....and you just bitch and whine, "eeh there's aliens that's gay!"...
F*#king pathetic!
I had a few tooo many last night.
First off I was entertained i enjoyed it . BUT.....
What didnt work was a god damn CGI gopher and TWICE ! ,Why the hell didnt they just use a real one, as the only purpose i can see is its an opening leading shotl
The problem is they characterised the gopher as well-this is not a PIXAR movie!
If a real gopher was used it would have been absolutely fine and a good openeing shot before the car smashes thru the gophers mound hill-but of course if you are thinking it would be dangerous to the animal blah blah -it wasnt in the shot anyway just the mound This reaks George Lucas influence im just not convinced Spielberg would put random cgi characters in his movies and in random parts. Since the star wars prequels what else can one think?
Next up , the sword fighting while doing the splits across two jeeps. !nuff said
Again multiple CGI monkeys, why?? oh why oh why-they do not enhance the scene-utterly pointless and again if this was removed it would have improved it some what. The tarzan thing too was just plain silly
-maybe swinging once or twice is fine but crossing large jungle areas to chase down a speeding jeep over multiple vines-its just too silly In a tarzan movie yes, he grew up in the jungle but a punk kid from the city??
The CGI other than listed above was excellent its just CGI monkeys and gophers have no part in an indianna jones film.Out of context.
And cate blanchett is way too attractive to be regarded as a villain reminds me of T3
I cant help but be intrigued by frank darabont's script-although i did read that alot of his ideas were used.
Hell why noy just keep the stories set in the nazi era and find a new actor to play doctor jones cos some one new is gonna play hiim anyways eventually.
Despite these freak incidents in the movie i did enjoy it alot. But like so many posts here feel that this film is marred by some freak inclusions.
The coolest part of this entire movie was when the Russian bitch was on the front of the boat-car and swung the machine gun around to nearly blow the shit out of Marion!
This is the kind of "smart-action" that the old Indys were all about! They needed more of this and less of the George of the Jungle bullshit and gophers and nuclear surfing in refridgerators.