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Film School Rejects: 6 Things You Should Know About Disney Buying Marvel

  • Jozef Garcia · 2 months ago
    I still dunno about this buyout, regarless what you say, Neil. Are we going to expect "Marvel Babies" any time soon?

    Maybe.
  • Patrick Heffernan · 2 months ago
    I can see it now.... Hannah Montana: Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D.
  • Erick Francisco · 2 months ago
    hahaha!!! that's hilarious!
  • finalcrisis2 · 2 months ago
    If you think about it, it really isn't. Because if/when that happens, you won't be laughing.
  • Aleric · 2 months ago
    They have already made that comparison, if you don't beleive me listen to some of the national reports that Disney reps have released.
  • Aleric · 2 months ago
    1. Bullshit

    2. Bullshit

    3. Bullshit

    4. Speilburg is a brand machine and he has produced a lot of turds as well as a few good movies.

    5. Bullshit, Marvel has one of the most recognized brand names out there. That is like Pepsi saying they are buying coke and they want to make Coke more recognizable. Never mind that the new logo with have the Pepsi Logo fused into it in some form or fashion.

    6. Disney is a mega corporation, I work for one of those, and history has shown me that people who should be in charge and making the right decisions are never in that position. Instead you get people who have no clue what they are doing making bad decisions and blaming the previous owners for their failures.
  • Anon · 2 months ago
    Wow... I hope you *enjoyed* working for that mega corporation...
  • Aleric · 2 months ago
    Been employed at one for over 15 years, my work is beyond reproach, so I am not worried.
  • Neil Miller · 2 months ago
    #1... you know you're calling 'bullshit' on a direct quote, right?

    #2... Legal contracts, not bullshit.

    #3... Actual meetings, also not bullshit.

    #4....

    ...

    ...

    Alright, I've lost interest in responding to your claims of bullshit.
  • Aleric · 2 months ago
    So basically Neil because I dont agree with you my reply to your article is not worth merit?

    1. You think because someone makes a quote it is valid or factual? Okay......

    2. All it takes is a stroke of the pen to change any previous contracts or finding a clause they can exploit to change something they dont like. They can also shut down and re-establish any franchise they have to better suit their agenda.

    3. Well you didn't bother to read past 3 so I suppose my other coments are valid since they are direct quotes from me...lol.
  • Neil Miller · 2 months ago
    Look, it's one thing to be cautious about a "mega-corporation," but it's another to be paranoid -- which is how you sound. Disney bought Pixar and so far they've let Pixar do their thing. I see no reason why buying and managing Marvel would be any different.

    And sure, contracts can change -- however, based on what was said on the conference call, Disney will be waiting out those contracts out.

    In all likelihood, it will be years (yes, years) before we see an impact on movie production and/or marketing. Comics, animated properties, merchandising, etc. are all a different story.

    #4... Not talking about quality of films here, just about marketing prowess and ability to make money. Marvel already brings creative quality to the table.

    #5... I think you're overestimating Marvel's brand recognition. Beyond their A-level characters (Spider-Man, The Hulk, X-Men and now Iron Man), you'd be hard pressed to find solid name recognition in the mainstream. It isn't Coke and Pepsi. It's Coke buying Tang.

    #6... See my above comment re: Caution v. Paranoia. You can't just lump every "mega corporation" in together and say they're inherently evil. You have to look at their track record (which in the case of Disney is good), the people involved (Bob Iger, a very savvy guy) and what they're saying (see the part where I talk about what Iger is saying about their relationship with Marvel).

    And yes, your opinion is worth merit... however, you started to lose me when you just spouted "bullshit, bullshit." You're better than that, and we both know it.
  • Aleric · 2 months ago
    But Bullshit is direct and to the point.

    As for paranoia, no it is is called experiance, been there done that, seen it done to others many times over.
  • Narc · 1 month ago
    Wow, you're really aggressive about this...
  • Erik · 2 months ago
    1. Look at all of their other acquisitions. They have clearly stuck to the "if it ain't broke" methodology. Take ESPN for example. I see absolutely no "Disneyfication." How about Mirimax and Touchstone? The films, "There Will Be Blood" and "No Country for Old Men" aren't exactly "Disneyfied."

    2. It's a legal matter. Contracts are not broken by acquisitions, unless the contract specifically states, which these surely would not. If they did state that, then Disney would not be able to make statements to the contrary. You really think Sony or Fox would give up the rights to those franchises without a fight (which would be well-publicized).

    3. Why is this one BS again? Of course Lasseter met with Marvel representatives. Pixar is incredibly successful, largely due to the efforts of John Lasseter, and only seems to be growing in popularity. Lasseter has been able to reach multiple demographics without sacrificing quality. Why on earth would Disney not put him in the same room as representatives from Marvel, who represents their only untapped demographic, the teen/young-adult male group? It would be idiotic if they ignored the obvious potential there.

    4. Marvel's turd-to-megahit ratio was horrible before Disney. You really think it could get worse? This is definitely going to be a step-up. Iron Man was successful because Marvel poured RIDICULOUS amounts of money into its production/marketing. Their profit margin wasn't all that high, as a result, but it had many intangible successes to go along with its box office success. Disney has the resources to repeat this level of film production/marketing. I, personally, wouldn't turn my nose up at this potential awesomeness.

    5. Marvel was recognizable, sure, but had very limited funding available. Marvel films required heavy special effects, which were very expensive. Limited profits means limited funds to use on future films. This article is talking about the newfound ability for Marvel to get its name in every facet of the media, beyond its current limitations. Disney has rarely fused its branding with a subsidiary's. It's not called "The Wonderful World of ESPN," for example. "Disney & Pixar's WALL-E" is the only type of fusion I can think of, if I had to name one.

    6. Mega-corporations definitely screw things up frequently, but this doesn't seem to be one of those situations. If Marvel follows the trend of ABC, ESPN, or Pixar, I will be very pleased.
  • The Filmociraptor · 2 months ago
    You can't really call Bullshit on truths man. The deals ARE still in place until the contracts are up and John Lasseter from Pixar has met with Marvel with great enthusiasm. I'll be the first to admit that I am a little bit nervous about this, however, there's no reason to be outwardly negative about this before really anything is announced.

    I think Marvel is going to be the creative force behind it's movies and Disney will be there to push them along with their dollars. $4bil is a lot of money to spend on something when you're only plan is to alienate comic book fans. Disney has something up their sleeve, and until they play their cards, I can only be positive about this.
  • Aleric · 2 months ago
    Keep that hope alive dude, place it beside all the other, "what if" movies projects that were killed due to corporate mismanagement.

    Marvel was actually starting to make a difference in Super hero movies and to go against the grain of producing lack luster films targeted to 10 year olds instead of the actual audiance the original titles were supported by.
  • Yaanu · 2 months ago
    I think you have to think of it like an ideal classroom at a school. The teacher (Disney) supplies the kids (Marvel) with the supplies needed (Money) to finish their project (Iron-Man 3: The Deadening). Sometimes they'll let the kids work with other kids from other classes (Pixar), and other times high-schoolers will come down and help them (Paramount, Sony, etc). When the project or whatever is finished, the parents (Film School Rejects, among others) will come down, observe the project, and give heaps of praise to the child, while the teacher sits back as his superiors (producers, Satan) give heaping amounts of praise to him and cut his paycheck anyway.

    Does that make sense?
  • Aleric · 2 months ago
    I think you are elaving out that the Teacher likes to meddle in what the kids do and can direct them to make their project the way the Teacher wants it done and not how the kids want to make it. Tell me that never happens.

    Good analogy though.
  • Yaanu · 2 months ago
    Well, at an ideal school (maybe an art school for gifted kids), the teacher would help the kids finish the project (Iron-Man 3) without overtaking the project entirely and making something completely different (The Suite Life of Peter and Mary Jane). What you are talking about would likely happen at a public school (Dreamworks), where most teachers are more concerned about paychecks rather than talent (Coming Soon: Shrek-Man 5: The Rising Hulk).

    Thanks for the compliment, by the way.
  • Peter Donohue · 2 months ago
    On the subject of theme parks, I'm curious as to how Marvel's big deal with Universal Islands of Adventure will play out. Anyway, I think people are making too big a deal about this.
  • mack41 · 2 months ago
    Really this is great news. But the theme park issue is a biggie because islands of adventure has a huge marvel superhero presense so if way down the line Disney can get that aspect out of the way they could make a complete Marvel world in Walt Disney World cause they got a shit ton of land to use. I only see good coming from this deal.
  • Name · 2 months ago
    Marvel theme park! (a good one)
  • Cole_Abaius · 2 months ago
    The biggest argument against getting all huffy here is what Disney has done (or rather not messed up) regarding Pixar.

    And the realization that Marvel Babies would rule.
  • sarasorrentino · 2 months ago
    I was panicking, but thanks to this I feel okay now.
  • rpaine · 2 months ago
    They better not make every marvel movie pg or g, if i saw a g-rated version of punisher..I don't know what i'd do.
  • halokun · 2 months ago
    I am excited about the Pixar prospects. I am worried about the comics themselves though. Will the story lines change drastically? I know it's too early to tell, and you guys focus on the film aspects of this merger, but I'm nervous. Of course, it doesn't really matter what is done is done and it doesn't help to be anything but positive about the future.

    Thanks for this, it's way more information than any other posts I've seen on the subject. You do bang up work.
  • Jeff · 2 months ago
    I am very excited about the Disney/Marvel deal...it means more money for making Marvel movies which cannot be bad.

    More of a technical issue, why do we now only get a tagline in our RSS feed instead of the whole article. The reason I have an RSS reader is so that I can stay in one place to read news. I love FSR so I probably won't unsubscribe but you are pissing a lot of people off by doing this.
  • !_! · 2 months ago
    this is good for us KINGDOM HEARTS fans, now we get to see DR.DOOM fight CLOUD
  • Luffy · 2 months ago
    I'm glad Disney is leaving the creative control to the guys at Marvel. They are the best at what they're doing so the "ain't broke" approach is best.
  • Rohith · 2 months ago
    Nice to know that Marvel/Disney/Paramount are all happy with the deal :)
  • Reggie DeLosAngeles · 2 months ago
    I won't be taking my time to type all of my comments but all I can say about this is that I'll cross my fingers to not screw up this deal. I love Marvel and they have been successful (unlike DC/WB).
    I'm relieve that Disney ain't going to touch the other brands for any changes. I can't complain either because like what Neil says 'Lost' is shown in ABC and ABC and Disney are one brand. I strongly believe that Disney ain't going to screw-up the 'Billion dollar' deal and Marvel will have the opportunity to make somethings to happen.
  • anthonyjpreston · 2 months ago
    I am not worried about Disney ruining Marvel, I am worried about Marvel ruining Disney. Email me with your opinions and questions.

    OMGThePeSt@yahoo.com

    -Anthony J. Preston
  • Celia · 2 months ago
    Frankly the transaction doesn't bother me much at all. Disney is far from stupid when it comes to money and I'm sure they realize that if they mess with Marvel too much, they will lose old fans. New fans are great, but I doubt they'd show the fanatic fervor of old fans. Furthermore, it's not Disney has much experience or care with the comic book world. It would be incredibly unwise for it to mess with the comic books themselves--particularly when the Marvel creative teams are already so successful with it.

    I anticipate all this deal will do is put more money into Marvel's movies and their merchandise lines. While some may not like their Marvel becoming "common", I'm sure this won't affect most fans in the slightest.

    As the article says...Disney excels at branding. To mess with the Marvel brand would be idiotic and unprofitable. I doubt they'll do it.
  • kreiyu · 2 months ago
    marvel has already become "common" with all the movie that have come out in the last 7-10 years. and i think a collaboration of pixar and marvel could make for some sweet cg movies. i'm just glad it wasn't Fox that bought marvel cause i think they've butchered the x-men with those god awful movies and the wolverine: origin movie. the directors of those need to be shot.
  • Joelio · 2 months ago
    Hmm, this doesn't bother me at all.

    Maybe that's because Marvel sucks to begin with.

    Yeah, I went there.
  • gern · 2 months ago
    Disney sucks. Them buying Pixar will kill Pixar's creativity and wonderful storytelling. Now we have sequels to look forward to.