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BTW the Spartans eventually lost later wars and their influence withered to nothing. Its amazing how much infighting occurred on the greek peninsula.
The main thing to note is that this is a movie, and it's fictional and dramatized. It's not so much a historical re-enactment as it is a movie loosely based on historic events. It's just for entertainment, so continuity really doesn't matter. Personally I think the Persian looked a lot cooler then the Spartans, the cosmetic/aesthetic design of the Persian army was much more interesting to me.
but please dont make it a horrible tragedy ...
QFT. Don't forget the skinny people with British accents were "weak-looking" athenians. It would be amazing to see an Iranian version of the same kind of story XD
sparta was a oligarchy and had two kings
the men who were born in sparta were trained ti fght
the helots did the farming and everyday life but since the spartans were always fighting the helots were basically free men
Spartans would fight their entire lives and if they lived to 60 they would retire and have land and everything.
Sparta was pretty much better than a democracy because there supposed slaves lived like they were equals
and the did conquer but they allied with them instead of killed them you loser
read you history better!!
In other word's its not a contemporary or personal commentary by the makers of 300 on any one race.
>Rick Cain said:
>Takes all the fun out of it when Spartans fight Greeks. No more hidden racist >undertones in these battles. Will the greeks now be depicted as deformed >monsters too?
>BTW the Spartans eventually lost later wars and their influence withered to >nothing. Its amazing how much infighting occurred on the greek peninsula.
From "Thebes" in Wikipedia:
"the Spartan garrison was expelled and a democratic constitution was set up in place of the traditional oligarchy. In the consequent wars with Sparta, the Theban army, trained and led by Epaminondas and Pelopidas, proved itself the best in Greece (see also: Sacred Band of Thebes). Years of desultory fighting, in which Thebes established its control over all Boeotia, culminated in 371 BC in a remarkable victory over the pick of the Spartans at Leuctra. The winners were hailed throughout Greece as champions of the oppressed. They carried their arms into Peloponnesus and at the head of a large coalition, permanently crippled the power of Sparta, in part by freeing many helot slaves, the basis of the Spartan economy. Similar expeditions were sent to Thessaly and Macedon to regulate the affairs of those regions."
Almost of the historical record for '300' comes from Herodotus, who was writing 50 or so years after the events he describes. The Spartans were integral to the defense of the Greek peninsula, but they left most of the heavy lifting to the Athenians. All of the Peloponnesian Greeks insisted on withdrawing behind the Isthmus of Corinth...which would have been a disaster, had it happened. The Athenians insisted on making a naval attack at Salamis under Themistocles, which destroyed the Persian fleet and cut their supply lines. Mardonius stayed behind with the Persian land forces, and was destroyed at Plataea, but he certainly would have prevailed if the Persian naval force was still around.
The Spartans had very little to lose during the Persian Wars, aside from their slaves. Spartan forces were often wary of leaving home for too long, as the Helots took every opportunity to revolt against them. Athens was sacked and burned prior to the battle of Salamis, and the Athenian countryside was ravaged. During the subsequent Peloponnesian Wars, Sparta actually enlisted the help of the Persians against Athens, and this certainly contributed to the widespread hatred against them.
soundtrack. Thank you hollywood for your crap.
I read something about the Matrix series in one of the previous comments, that is a great example! The first one was a great movie and still is, the sequel wasn't to bad but when they came out with the 3rd one, I was glad it ended because the fight scenes just looked so animated and not real at all...I hope that isn't the case if there's a 300 part 2.
Actually, no it's not. It's only (vaguely) accurate to Herodotus' account of the battle. Well, the problem with that is a) he wasn't there to witness it, b) he's a known liar, and c) his idea of history was that it was okay to bend the truth if it was more entertaining that way.
There is scant evidence that the Battle of Thermopylae happened at all, let alone that it happened how Herodotus said. It's just as likely that Leonidas attempted to ally Sparta with Persia and was killed in the negotiations. Or that Leonidas committed ritual suicide at Thermopylae, and the Persians passed the site totally unopposed. There is no real corroborating evidence for Herodotus' melodramatic crap, and Spartan might was more or less ALWAYS a legend, and not a reality.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spartan_pederasty
There are reliable sources that tell us that Spartan pederasty was never sexual in nature, and in fact tell us that anal penetration between two men was a crime in Sparta.